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Re: XPSP2 compatability


From: Max <reply.to.newsgroup () mozilla org>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:33:56 +0200

Well said. I agree completely.


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Jophn Deo wrote:
> Sp2 hasn't been faling from the sky on a average rainy day.
> An abundance of reading material was avaible to the developer community
> maintaining their apps for the ms platform, in this case xp.
> A lot off software,packages , ports or whatever such as ethereal
> how good and impressive they might be , are still maintained by
> by volunteers who besides their regular jobs ( perhaps at MS who knows)
> , maintain and update the above described. Nothing wrong with that.
> However very often i see some maintainer making apologies on the website
> stating , haven't got the time, so this , that, isn't fixed,
> I have installed and tested more than 30 linux kernels  upto FreeBSD
> and OpenBSD unixes.All had their pro's and cons.A pc with linux
> installed on it isn't more secure than a raw xp box with sp2 on it.
> In my opinion security strongly depends on the skills and willingness of
> the end-user and the goal he/she has in mind.It allso depends on wether
> you only surf the net and send an occasional e-mail to some friends
> or you want to explore p2p , play online games, participate in forums,
> rip some shoutcast stations , make your own dolby 5.1/7.1 dvd's (taking
> some risk by using some obscure programs) and so on.
>
> People who have sniffed around in the kitchen of the open source
> community , know that its hard to implement for eg noexec memory pages ,
> etc while still maintaining continuity and giving the end-user the
> opportunity of using gui's isn't very trivial.It's to ordinaire giving
> MS the blame alone, compatibillity  has some benefits from alertness of
> its maintainers allso.As a (private) desktop MS has besides Mac OsX no
> real compettitors.The true power of linux, *BSD ,Open/Bought Source is
> the total cost of ownership.No expensive licence fees alone that exeed
> the cost of all hardware.OpenBSD can become a superb firewall on a i386
> box , when installed and maintained by some skilled hands , and compete
> with far more expensive hardware solutions.Adamantix a debian based
> ultra secure linux , can make your server a tough nutt to crack.
> Yet don't wine if you can't mux your wav's into ac3's on it.
>
> I fully agree with some of the posters who said it all depends on the
> purpose.

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