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Re[2]: Kernel sec. systems WAS: Why eEye Retina (was MBSA scanner)


From: Jason Ostrom <jpo () pobox com>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 16:53:38 -0500

Marc,

I do agree with you when you said kernel protection systems alone are
not enough, but I also think there is not a single silver bullet here,
and the same can be said for any product.

I would be interested to see how the eEye Blink IPS differs in
regards to protecting against vulnerabilities specifically (rather
than just exploits), and how this differs from Okena.

<<
Marc Maiffret> Okena "works" because no one
Marc Maiffret> knowledgeable has said otherwise. Okena has
Marc Maiffret> taken the same flawed approach as
Marc Maiffret> network IDS systems focusing on
Marc Maiffret> protecting from exploits, and not
Marc Maiffret> vulnerabilities specifically. Although
Marc Maiffret> they have done so by doing detection of
Marc Maiffret> exploits at the kernel level,
Marc Maiffret> instead of at the network level.


To be fair to Okena, and all marketing aside, it does provide patch
relief for most vulnerabilities, and isn't this adding an extra layer
of security?  I can also see the Security Policy compliance
benefit in locking down the user groups with the rule-based behavior, i.e.
Group A can not use Kazaa, Group B can only use Yahoo IM, etc.

Jason


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