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Re: RE: Application Assessment
From: Kyle Starkey <kstarkey () siegeworks com>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:39:11 -0600
I would suggest against the appscan product unless you want to use their developers addition for pre compiled code... There has been very litle r&d time/dollars being allocated to this product in the past 24 months and as such it has lagged behind in functionaliy by comparison to the webinspect product.. If you only have budget for one tool I would suggest webinspect over the others...
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 1:32 pm, RUI PEREIRA - WCG wrote:
Juan,Approx 1 year ago we did an evaluation between Appscan, Kavado, WebInspect and AppDetective. We chose WebInspect for the range of vulnerabilities tested for, the granularity of test selection, the flexibility of use, etc. Contact me offline if you want more detail on our selection process.Thank You Rui Pereira,B.Sc.(Hons),CIPS ISP,CISSP,CISA Principal Consultant WaveFront Consulting Group Certified Information Systems Security Professionals wavefront1 () shaw ca | 1 (604) 961-0701 ----- Original Message ----- From: Juan Carlos Reyes Muñoz <jcreyes () etb net co> Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:26 am Subject: RE: Application Assessment-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Allen, One question... have you ever tried Watchfire's Appscan? If so, which tool could be better between Appscan and Webinspect? Juan Carlos Reyes Muñoz GIAC Certified Forensic Analyst - SANS Institute Consultor de Seguridad Informática Cel. 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[BrokkenA () missouri edu] > Enviado el: Jueves, 11 de Agosto de 2005 01:43 p.m. > Para: Glyn Geoghegan; goenw > CC: pen-test () securityfocus com; Webappsec > Asunto: RE: Application Assessment > > I am a Security Analyst for the University of Missouri - Columbia Campus. > I came from a systems administration background, and in the past 18 months > have been tasked with application security as just part of a greater > Information Systems Auditing program. > > I personally have used > > SpikeProxy from www.insecure.org > Paros, mentioned by others > and evaluated a handful of other Proxy/Automated Attack Methods. > > However, the best tool I've seen and the one we finally purchased is > WebInspect from SPI Dynamics > http://www.spidynamics.com > > I did some independent test between SpikeProxy and WebInspect on the a few > different applications. With SpikeProxy it took basically 1 working day > to run the tool, and verify false positives, look up good references for > the vulnerabilities and write the report. The same application with > WebInspect took approximately 15 minutes of my time to configure, and > generate the final report while taking about 2 hours to actually run > without my intervention. It typically found 20% more vulnerabilities than > I could find by the more manual method with SpikeProxy, and produced > extensive reports that not only explained the vulnerabilities, but gave > code references the developers could use to fix their problem. > > Those were results I got prior to training. I got some extensive training > with the tool and on web application testing in general at Security-PS > http://www.securityps.com. They are a Professional Application Security> auditing company and they use this as their core tool because of both the > accuracy of the tool and the responsiveness of the company. In the > training I got to learn how to effectively use the a whole suite of tools > including a Web Brute force attacker, SQL Injector, Proxy, Encoders / > Decoders, and Web Service assessment tools to name a few. > > The tool is a little pricey, but I work with litterally dozens of campus > departments and have evaluated LAMP, JAVA/ORACLE, ASP.NET/SQL Server and > even VBScript/Access systems with the WebInspect Suite of tools. The #1 > comment I get from the developers is how helpful the report was in > correcting their code. For that broad spectrum of coding enviroments I > couldn't possibly provide code level help to the developers without this > product. > > We've been using it now for almost a year and the responsiveness of their > Sales and Technial staff has been extreme. I haven't had a single issue > that wasn't resolved in less than 24 hours. I've also gotten a lot of > support from their sales staff regarding application security awareness> for our campus developers in general. > > One last thing to mention is the updates. I have never seen a tool that > is so consistently updated. I have run 2 or 3 assessments in the same day > and had updates for new vulnerabilities made available each time I ran the > tool. If a week goes by without using it there can be litterally 100's of > new signatures it needs to add to the list. > > If you have more questions and want to talk offline I'd be happy to answer > them. > > Allen Brokken > Systems Security Analyst - Principal > Univeristy of Missouri > brokkena () missouri edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.1 (Build 2185) Comment: Mensaje Seguro, Enviado por Juan Carlos Reyes M. iQIVAwUBQvy/k4ElKqNdrUwNAQgxhw//c/aBxhmWEZl5lisTuM4YjV7VL5ikWCzr OwwfVoV+dnAzYSio55zhGidKLh/kU9A12WdWz6a77xSZyPmsf0mVszyN0cYuf24A /jtxb9GRAdlyLii1r38FdQ2BKCl3/Wydd2Q5seyukNZMg5QggdtSPMyKwF4pkehD 7Z6Hb/M+bQjJN7zyn8L/94Kr0LJU8GK8AWCO4XB+yku5ndUOmcWF+XJrClx3qUSO FWj75d+fasRXuM8/Z9bBeCfvDlhuTh01afa68Mz2aO5uOoCooDvsAa0S9q6gre8e TDzl8okWMzudyKdJrbkW5JPb3SGvtAvcsfdRKX+qv4dbhxFnbKncghhwMgBY+2ua uZ8nieMtvjTbpPNev0VQe7nDCD0XPR6Ft9Ty1DddYY9SbIOoJAYR0oQ50zBi769i Eq0CD8++Hf4oqrBHZEkIMsotNYVTEjOcdbiP9lqd/efZ0Tcl5pZKP8qqGcUF1/D4 OUpq4JEM/N3iw0dTBPLnvIcHftE6Ou/VJAr8EFjUAw++9LBcwXKd9U5q+1j2ysBo ELRd+wpTz5dTc73nQeTjA8MNJspO82JHf8C/c0f89OlKMgDx8fcnwcV+FL8L52Od /KITItOoltULIhvFoHHWK23mWibJffu4XMN00YAwTzlC09iQMUZisdX+Jju6gsz5 Eyk0+jWqQCg= =L/PW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------FREE WHITE PAPER - Wireless LAN Security: What Hackers Know That You Don'tLearn the hacker's secrets that compromise wireless LANs. 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- Re: Application Assessment, (continued)
- Re: Application Assessment cbc (Aug 10)
- Re: Application Assessment goenw (Aug 11)
- Re: Application Assessment Irene Abezgauz (Aug 11)
- Re: Application Assessment Glyn Geoghegan (Aug 11)
- Re: Application Assessment bugtraq (Aug 11)
- RE: Application Assessment Anders Thulin (Aug 09)
- RE: Application Assessment Ory Segal (Aug 11)
- RE: Application Assessment Mark Curphey (Aug 12)
- RE: Application Assessment Juan Carlos Reyes Muñoz (Aug 12)
- Re: RE: Application Assessment RUI PEREIRA - WCG (Aug 12)
- Re: RE: Application Assessment Kyle Starkey (Aug 12)
- RE: Application Assessment Ashley Vandiver (Aug 12)
- RE: Application Assessment Brokken, Allen P. (Aug 12)
- RE: Application Assessment Brokken, Allen P. (Aug 12)
- RE: Application Assessment Tom Stracener (Aug 12)
- Re: RE: Application Assessment secureuniverse (Aug 12)
- Re: Application Assessment Pete Herzog (Aug 13)
- RE: Application Assessment Michael Gargiullo (Aug 12)
- Re: Application Assessment goenw (Aug 17)
- RE: RE: Application Assessment Ory Segal (Aug 13)