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Re: Exploit through firewall question
From: "Phil Frederick" <flosofl () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:47:21 -0500
"What would be the reason to test behind the firewall?" Well, corporate espionage and sabotage come to mind. We have two separate teams where I work. One tests external threats and attempts to attack from outside. The other team (the one I'm on) does vulnerability assessments from the inside. (we also use a consulting firm to do their own external pen-tests on us). A lot of damage/loss/theft comes in the form of employees. Disgruntled, bored, greedy, or just plain malicious. This is even more of an issue for companies that are financial or high tech in nature. By only testing from outside a perimeter firewall you are setting yourself up for "crunchy-on-the-outside-chewy-on-the-inside" type situation. Of course, InfoSec involves much, much more than just vulnerability management and external firewalling. Defense-in-depth is key: IDS/IPS, port filtering, subnet firewalls, bandwidth profiling, etc.. On 19 Jul 2006 13:33:13 -0000, mr.nasty () ix netcom com <mr.nasty () ix netcom com> wrote:
Thanks for the responses. You've confirmed what I had passed to mgmt. But I still have a problem (with mgmt) understanding why?... I perform vulnerability analysis on our outside (public) web presense, usually during development and then after it's been deployed. I basically use the same tools for each. Mgmt wants me to only test through the firewall as if I'm coming in like the public. The rational is that the fw will prevent any attacks though ports other than 80 and 443. Therefore, there is no reason to change this configuration. What would be the reason to test behind the firewall? Any suggestions? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This List Sponsored by: Cenzic Concerned about Web Application Security? Why not go with the #1 solution - Cenzic, the only one to win the Analyst's Choice Award from eWeek. As attacks through web applications continue to rise, you need to proactively protect your applications from hackers. Cenzic has the most comprehensive solutions to meet your application security penetration testing and vulnerability management needs. You have an option to go with a managed service (Cenzic ClickToSecure) or an enterprise software (Cenzic Hailstorm). Download FREE whitepaper on how a managed service can help you: http://www.cenzic.com/news_events/wpappsec.php And, now for a limited time we can do a FREE audit for you to confirm your results from other product. Contact us at request () cenzic com for details. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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