Re: testing laptop based on bsd anyone

["Robin Wood" <dninja () gmail com>]

Sorry, I've just realised, the way that gmail was showing the links,
it had associated frenzy with warlinux in the post from jgervacio.
Obviously, warlinux is linux based!

Oops.

On 3/10/06, Robin Wood <dninja () gmail com> wrote:
> Thanks for that Erin, that was what I was trying to get at.
>
> Anyway, I've now got FreeBSD 6 installed and got my wireless card up
> and running so I'm going to give it a try for a while and see how it
> goes both as a pen-testing platform and as a day-to-day desktop
> distro.
>
> The comment at the top of the SourceForge page for Frenzy says
> "A new linux distribution for Wardrivers"
> but the second link goes to a page on the the freebsd site so I'll
> give it a download and see. Hopefully it will point at some nice BSD
> based tools that will increase the arsenal.
>
> Robin
>
> On 3/10/06, Erin Carroll <amoeba () amoebazone com> wrote:
> > Terry,
> >
> > I wasn't speaking about the relative strengths of security measures within
> > an OS as a yardstick to determining viability as a pen-test platform. I was
> > observing that, given BSD's focus on secure code, it's strange that there
> > aren't more BSD-native tools available. There's a certain allure to BSD's
> > security focus for a pen-test platform. However, most of the better known
> > tools out there have multiple rpm/deb/portage (read:Linux) packages but very
> > few also have BSD ports available.. Which reduces BSD users to compiling
> > from source. With BSD's different lib and directory structures this can be a
> > pain to deal with at times. The lack of BSD-centric pen-test tools is
> > probably a combination of smaller mindshare/marketshare and the inherent
> > differences from Linux.
> >
> > Having cut my teeth on OpenBSD back in the day I was hoping someone would
> > chime in with some suggestions on BSD distros tailored for pen-testing.
> > Someone mentioned Frenzy which I'll have to check out.
> >
> > Plus I was trying to stop the helpful (but not list relevant) suggestions on
> > how Robin could fix his wifi drivers. There's better resources out there for
> > that kind of support and didn't want to clutter the list with such a
> > tangent. :)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Erin Carroll
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> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Terry Vernon [mailto:tvernon24 () comcast net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:38 PM
> > > To: 'Erin Carroll'; 'Robin Wood'
> > > Cc: Woods_Beau () dkmc org; pen-test () securityfocus com
> > > Subject: RE: testing laptop based on bsd anyone
> > >
> > > I don't think security measures within a system have an after
> > > effect on compiled auditing tools. This makes the decision
> > > about which OS to use more specific to your hardware being
> > > detected without too much hassle and choice of tools based on
> > > platform.
> > >
> > > -Terry
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Erin Carroll [mailto:amoeba () amoebazone com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:00 PM
> > > To: Robin Wood
> > > Cc: Woods_Beau () dkmc org; pen-test () securityfocus com
> > > Subject: Re: testing laptop based on bsd anyone
> > >
> > >
> > > I still haven;t seen anyone really address what I thought was the most
> > > interesting aspect of what Robin was asking by implication: BSD-based
> > > pen-testing systems vs Linux-based. One would think that with
> > > BSD's focus
> > > on secure code and computing practices that it would be ideal for a
> > > pen-test and security-centric launchpad... but I've seen very few
> > > BSD-based distros or packages that weren't ports of Linux
> > > apps. Are there
> > > tings BSD is capable of doing due to system design that Linux
> > > can't (or do
> > > as easily) and vice-versa?
> > >
> > > Personally I don't have an operating system preference as I'll use
> > > whatever the best OS (tool) I need for the job at hand. That
> > > being said, I
> > > have run into cases where if something doesn't exist in the BSD ports
> > > packages, getting a tool installed and compiled from source can be a
> > > nightmare. YMMV
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Robin Wood wrote:
> > >
> > > > I had some time on my hands so just went for it and
> > > installed FreeBSD 6.
> > > The
> > > > base system starts up ok so now I've got to start loading
> > > all the tools on
> > > > it. I've left plenty of drive space so I can dual boot
> > > windows and linux
> > > if
> > > > needs be so everything should be catered for.
> > > >
> > > > Off to get wifi working...
> > > >
> > > > Robin
> > > >
> > > > On 3/8/06, Robin Wood <dninja () gmail com> wrote:
> > > > > I had some time on my hands so just went for it and
> > > installed FreeBSD 6.
> > > The base system starts up ok so now I've got to start loading
> > > all the tools
> > > on it. I've left plenty of drive space so I can dual boot
> > > windows and linux
> > > if needs be so everything should be catered for.
> > > > > Off to get wifi working...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Robin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/8/06, Woods_Beau () dkmc org < Woods_Beau () dkmc org> wrote:
> > > > > > check out FreeSBIE -- They have a nice little live CD
> > > that boots BSD.
> > > They also have a live CD creator, so you can get BSD going
> > > the way you want
> > > it on your hard drive, then turn that custom distro into a
> > > live CD.  That
> > > could come in handy if you want to run Windows or something
> > > else and don't
> > > want to dual boot.
> > > > > >  -----
> > > > > >  Beau Woods
> > > > > >  Information Security Analyst
> > > > > >  DeKalb Medical Center
> > > > > >  (404)501-3825
> > > > > >  beau_woods () dkmc org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Robin Wood" <dninja () gmail com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 03/07/2006 05:23 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >  I'm having problems with wireless pen-tests due to the
> > > linux drivers
> > > > > >  for my wireless card and someone suggested trying one
> > > of the BSDs.
> > > > > >  Does anyone here use BSD as a base system for
> > > pen-testing from? I was
> > > > > >  going to go with FreeBSD as I have a little knowledge
> > > of it already.
> > > > > >  Any tips, tricks or gotchas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Robin
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