Re: rules of engagement scope

["Morning Wood" <se_cur_ity () hotmail com>]

> I'd be curious to find out what the typical scoping is for a pen test 
> rules of engagement agreement.

do blackhats play by rules? no

> Do folks go with a "anything goes" or "no holds barred" approach?

yes and yes, otherwise it would be worthless to the customer and
then becomes a vulnerability test

> What limits on ROE do people normally see in these types of agreements?

DoS conditions are generally frowned upon, but cannot always be avoided.
This can be defined during the scope agreement, although I might consider a 
DoS
against a critical service to be a "success" ( DoS is representive of 
killing a needed service or denying access
to a service / application by a fault of the software[ not a connection 
flood type of DoS ] )
in other words, a attack that kills an exchange server to deny email access 
could be considered a "success"

defining the scope ( or ROE ) with your customer prior to pentesting is very 
critical, and can encompas a wide range of "what is allowed". IMHO a 
pen-test should be just that, a no-holds-barred all out attempt to 
circumvent applied security measures at all costs.

my2bits,
MW



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