RE: GCIA, GSEC, GCIH, CISSP, CEH ???

["Ferris, Joe" <jferris () admin fsu edu>]

I must disagree with the "only three sources for pen test related
certifications."  I have taken SANS courses  with Ed Skoudis (GCIH) and
Chris Brenton (GCFW) and they both cover in-depth pen testing ideas,
concepts, examples, strategies and much more.  I have reviewed the CEH
course and believe that the GCIH covers all of that material and more.
The GCFW course covers portions of the CEH course (GCIH as well) and
then issues, configurations, ideas, concerns that are outside of CEH
scope but still critical for pen testing.  Learning from the authors of
the actual course material is another added credible benefit to the SANS
courses that is hard to duplicate.

Security 560 :: Network Penetration Testing and Ethical Hacking
"When teaching the class, I particularly enjoy the numerous hands-on
exercises culminated with a final pen-testing extravaganza lab. -Ed
Skoudis"

It looks like GCEH is offered in 2008.

Joe Ferris

 
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> From: listbounce () securityfocus com
> [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Walter Cuestas
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:21 AM
> To: pen-test () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: GCIA, GSEC, GCIH, CISSP, CEH ???
>
> Just to say that every comment about CEH seems to be based on
> versiones previous to 5 (some comments seems based on books from EC
> Council and 2 others that are so far from current EC Council
> material).
> Today, CEH is the start point and next steps for people who wants to
> demonstrate their knowledge and expertise, thtrough certifications,
> are ECSA and finally get LPT (if you need this one).
>
> Since the first mail of this thread, I have reviewed every syllabus,
> exam topics, exam and labs demos, training videos and so on.
>
> IMHO, there are just three sources for pen test related certifications
> : EC Council, ISECOM and Mile2 (based on CEH).
>
> SANS has a lot of certifications that are good complement for CEH,
> OPST, OPSA, CPTS and CPTE, but, I can't find an specific pen test
> certification from SANS.
>
> Also, as all of you know, there is no certification neither a set of
> exams that really demonstrate the actual knowledge of people.
> These certifications are just a complement for a professional career.
>
> BTW, I have reviewed some of the recommended training based on videos
> and they seem to be just BackTrack courses.
>
>
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