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FC: Clarification to Virginia porn case; more on MS, Jackson, DoJ


From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 22:23:17 -0500

[Thanks to David for pointing this out. The correct name is UROFSKY, MELVIN I., ET AL. V. GILMORE, GOV. OF VA, and is one of approximately 500 cases announced today that the Supreme Court declined to accept. --Declan]

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:32:08 -0500
To: declan () well com
From: David Sobel <sobel () epic org>
Subject: Re: FC: Judge Jackson rips Gates; Sup. Court nixes Virginia porn
 appeal
Cc: politech () politechbot com


Declan -

This item was somewhat misleading.  The case was Urofsky v.
Gilmore (not Virginia v. Reno), and the motion for certiorari
was denied (not judgment affirmed, as was the disposition in
Virginia v. Reno).  Denial of cert is a lot different than
summary affirmance.

- David

At 12:33 PM -0500 1/8/01, Declan McCullagh wrote:

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>Background on Virginia case:
>http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,17876,00.html
>http://www.aclu.org/issues/cyber/censor/censor.html#virginia
>
>http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/010801.ZOR.html
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>MONDAY, JANUARY 8, 2001
>APPEAL -- SUMMARY DISPOSITION
>00-862 VIRGINIA V. RENO, ATTY. GEN., ET AL.
>The judgment is affirmed.
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David L. Sobel, General Counsel              *   +1 202 483 1140 (tel)
Electronic Privacy Information Center        *   +1 202 483 1248 (fax)
1718 Connecticut Ave., N.W. Suite 200        *   sobel () epic org
Washington, DC 20009   USA                   *   http://www.epic.org
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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 10:13:52 -0800
From: lizard <lizard () mrlizard com>
To: declan () well com
CC: politech () politechbot com
Subject: Re: FC: Judge Jackson rips Gates; Sup. Court nixes Virginia porn appeal

So, a person who has near-absolute power by direct appointment, with no
accountability and a lifetime tenure, sees fit to critique someone who
has had to build a business from the ground up. I wonder if, starting
with Gates' admittedly sizeable wad of money from his father, Mr.
Jackson could construct such an enterprise?

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:35:17 -0400
From: "Hitchens, Ralph" <Ralph.Hitchens () hq doe gov>
Subject: RE: Judge Jackson rips Gates
To: "'declan () well com%internet'" <declan () well com>
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Declan, this is ridiculous. How anyone familiar with the Microsoft saga could believe that Bill Gates (any more than Napoleon himself!) experienced "unalloyed success, with no leavening hard experience, no reverses" is beyond me. This is not to say that billg isn't more than a bit arrogant, but we should acknowledge that he got where he is by virtue of ability and perseverence against long odds. Or am I missing something?

Ralph Hitchens

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From: "Thomas Leavitt" <thomasleavitt () hotmail com>
To: declan () well com
Subject: Re: FC: Judge Jackson rips Gates; Sup. Court nixes Virginia porn appeal
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2001 17:21:42 -0800

An absurd decision, reflective of our nation's puritanical heritage.

All these professors should look for work elsewhere... Virginia will revise it's laws when and if its universities become intellectually decimated.

Regards,
Thomas Leavitt

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Reply-To: <thomas.greene () theregister co uk>
From: "Thomas C. Greene" <tcgreene () bellatlantic net>
To: <declan () well com>
Subject: RE: Judge Jackson rips Gates; Sup. Court nixes Virginia porn appeal
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:37:07 -0500


Hi Declan,
I thought this one would interest your Politech readers.
cheers,
tom

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/15900.html

Hollywood, software groups push DoJ copyright busts
By: Thomas C Greene in Washington

Music bootleggers and software crackers tired of wading through the entire
United States Code to see if they're about to break the law, or incur
daunting criminal liabilities in excess of the potential value of their
planned activities, may now consult a handy reference guide on line.

The US Department of Justice (DoJ) has published a manual for prosecuting
intellectual property violation and copyright infringement, including the
maximum penalties for each sort of infraction and related sentencing
guidelines. http://www.cybercrime.gov/ipmanual.htm

It also lists common-sense strategies for the Feds to score a win in court,
including a breakdown of fair-use exceptions which can be profitably
exploited, and value estimates of the allegedly infringed works engineered
for success.

For example, when seeking a felony rap, "prosecutors should be careful
simply to charge a value greater than $2,500," the Department advises.

We deeply appreciate the banana-republic prosecutorial ring of that wording.
'Go on, pick a number out of a hat; just ensure it's greater than 2,500.'
*wink*

The DoJ reaffirms its deeply held conviction that the Internet was conceived
principally as some diabolical mechanism to shield terrorists, paedophiles
and copyright violators from law enforcement agents and prosecutors.

"Internet cases raise unusual evidentiary and proof issues," the Department
observes. "One substantial challenge for Internet cases is to accurately
determine the identity and quantity of the infringing items (pirated
copyrighted works) that were distributed."

However, baffled Feds are encouraged to seek assistance in developing their
cases. "Law enforcement agencies should utilize all available resources in
identifying victims and determining loss," the DoJ says.

By which they mean: 'when in doubt, contact your friendly neighbourhood
software or entertainment industry front group.'

"In certain circumstances, assistance might be sought from the private
sector. Certain private industry business associations, such as the Business
Software Alliance, the Interactive Digital Software Association, the Motion
Picture Association of America, the Recording Industry Association of
America, and the Software Information Industry Association, have provided
significant assistance in previous investigations," the DoJ recommends.

If that sounds like an unholy alliance, we mustn't blame the Department.
It's not their fault, they insist. "In recent years, Congress has taken an
especially strong interest in intellectual property crimes as well as
intellectual property law generally," the report emphasizes on about eight
different occasions.

The culprit here is the US Congress, whose members take in vast campaign
donations from these industry groups and are then, obviously, required to
deliver legislation favourable to their benefactors if they wish to see the
money spigot remain open.

House Members are particularly susceptible to this sort of manipulation,
being compelled by law to mount a campaign every two years. Indeed, one
barely has time to take the oath before the next fund-raising cycle
commences.

US legislators have grown so dependent on entertainment and software
industry succour that "Congress took the unprecedented step of singling out
intellectual property crimes for detailed accounting in the Attorney
General's Annual Accountability Report," the DoJ laments.

We've long observed the ways in which these industries influence the US
legislative agenda; here we see that they're influencing national
law-enforcement and prosecutorial priorities as well.

Ain't Democracy wonderful? ®

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