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FC: Fleishman-Hillard PR firm blocks all mail from well.com, Politech
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:33:13 -0700
[On second reading, it's not entirely clear whether Chuck is blocking all mail from the Well and Politech himself or just encouraging everyone at Fleishman-Hillard to do so. In any case, it's a sad case of self-appointed, anti-spam vigilantes run amok... --Declan]
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Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 23:22:09 -0700 To: "Magner, Chuck" <magnerc () fleishman com> From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> Subject: Re: spamCc: "Mcclure, Marna" <mcclurem () fleishman com>, "Craven, Liz" <cravenl () fleishman com>Let's get the chronology straight:1. Marna McClure, from Fleishman-Hillard, which bills itself as the "leading" public relations consultancy in the U.S., subscribes to Politech. My records show Marna joined in April 1998 or earlier. 2. Four years later, in April 2002, Marna wishes to unsubscribe. But she either forgets what email address she used or can't figure out how to unsubscribe -- even though clear instructions are on the Politech website. 3. Marna complains to me a few hours ago that Politech messages are "spam" and threatens to report them as such. ("I will report this as spam if you do not get me off your email list immediately.") This is the first time I heard from her that she was having problems. 4. I take time out of my day (Politech is not a for-profit activity, just a hobby) to check and see what email address she subscribed under and give her the appropriate instructions to unsubscribe. 5. It looks like Marna changed her email address sometimes in the last four years from Mcclurem () fleishman com to Mcclurem2 () fleishman com, according to a directory of PR folks (http://www.workinpr.com/industry/agency/pr_findbystate.asp). I'd guess she was trying to unsubscribe her new address from Politech.Your response: On behalf of Fleishman-Hillard, you complain that, somehow, Politech is "junk" and threaten to report me to the Net.spam.cops.You also say that you're blocking any mail from Politech to anyone else at Fleishman-Hillard, even though many other folks at the company are subscribers who presumably want to continue to receive messages. You say that Fleishman-Hillard will, in spite, block *all* mail from well.com, which is an Internet provider with (last I checked) over 10,000 subscribers. Among those subscribers are hundreds of journalists with whom Fleishman-Hillard presumably wants to communicate.Two questions for you, Chuck: You ever see that Saturday Night Live skit where Jimmy Fallon plays "Nick Burns, Your Company's Computer Guy?" You ever wonder why everyone in the company hates him so much?-Declan At 12:51 PM 4/9/2002 -0500, Magner, Chuck wrote:Considering your inability to comprehend the amount of inconvenience you cause not only our users at the desktop by having to spend valuable work time deleting your unsolicited emails, but also our IT department by having to create filters to eliminate your junk. I have advised Ms Mcclure and everybody else in our company to report all unsolicted emails from you and those originating from well.com to;spamcop.net nofalsenegatives.stopspam.samspade.org blacklist http://mail-abuse.org Dorkslayers Zero Tolerance List http://www.dorkslayers.com/ Spam Prevention Early Warning System http://www.spews.org/ Spamhaus Block List http://www.spamhaus.org/We will be notifying the business manager at Well: bizmgr () WELL COM and the technical contact dns () SALON COM of your unsolicited spam activities. As well as sending snail mail to their address at;22 Fourth Street, 16th Floor San Francisco, CA 94103I consider it an honor and privilige to use all the technology tools available at making you go away, I will be contacting you personally as soon as possible.The purpose and intent of this email and any attachments are intended solely for the Addressee(s). Contents may contain privileged, confidential or otherwise protected information. If you are not the Addressee(s) or the person responsible for delivering this to the Addressee(s), you are hereby notified that dissemination, distribution or copying of this email or the information herein is prohibited. If you received this email message in error, please take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system and contact the sender. Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited.
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