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Replies to E.U. Parliament voting to force "data retention" on telecom, Net firms [priv]
From: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com>
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:50:11 -0500
Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/2005/12/14/eu-parliament-votes/ -------- Original Message --------Subject: Re: [Politech] E.U. Parliament votes to force "data retention" on telecom, Net firms [priv]
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:19:36 -0500 From: Jonathan Zittrain <z at oii dot ox.ac.uk> To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> [pls obfuscate email address to avoid spam bots] -- Declan, I'm curious whether a US or other foreign market might arise for turnkey startup-to-shutdown VPN services on European PCs, allowing those inside Europe to render data retention moot in exchange for a slight slowdown in network performance (as everything routes through an overseas server) and the possibility of surveillance or retention in that third location. One wonders if any of the member state implementations of the directive will seek to penalize the provision or use of such services under an "induce" or other standard. ...JZ Jonathan Zittrain Professor of Internet Governance and Regulation Oxford University Jack N. and Lillian R. Berkman Visiting Professor for Entrepreneurial Legal Studies Harvard Law School <http://www.jz.org> -------- Original Message --------Subject: RE: [Politech] E.U. Parliament votes to force "data retention" on telecom, Net firms [priv]
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:58:31 -0500 From: Richard M. Smith <rms () computerbytesman com> To: <bendrath () zedat fu-berlin de>CC: 'Declan McCullagh' <declan () well com>, 'Richard M. Smith' <rms () computerbytesman com>
Hi Ralf, Do you have sense how long wireless carriers are typically keeping around call data today without there being any kind of government mandate? Also, with cellphones, location data is available even when a call is not being made. Will this location data also have to kept around under the proposed law? Richard -------- Original Message --------Subject: Re: [Politech] E.U. Parliament votes to force "data retention" on telecom, Net firms [priv]
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:29:09 -0600 From: G.Waleed Kavalec <kavalec () gmail com> To: Declan McCullagh <declan () well com> References: <43A041B1.1070508 () well com> Basically this will drive business (customers) to the countries with no or minimum requirements since their vendors will have the least cost to have to pass on. (d'Oh!) _______________________________________________ Politech mailing list Archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Moderated by Declan McCullagh (http://www.mccullagh.org/)
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