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FW: What's the next tech problem to be solvedin softwaresecurity?


From: ljknews at mac.com (ljknews)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:31:09 -0400

At 9:16 AM -0400 6/10/07, Robert C. Seacord wrote:
ljknews,

Yes, it is virtually impossible to get a serious runtime error in an Ada
program.  For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYUrqdUyEpI

It amazes me that someone in a discussion of software security would point
to a page that requires Javascript to be viewed.

But I see the topic of the page was Ariane 5, a well known case of running
software in an environment other than that specified in the design of the
software.

That is a management issue - my comments were about buffer overflows,
as were the comments of David Crocker which I quoted.  If you have
secret knowledge that the Ariane 5 failure was related to buffer
overflows, please share it.

Not reading what was going on, in fact, was the cause of the Ariene 5
failure.

At 9:51 PM +0100 6/9/07, David Crocker wrote:

  
If instead we pay people to perform the more skilled tasks of establishing
requirements and specifying the systems to meet them, and use computers to
generate programs that meet the specifications, then such things as freedom from
buffer overflow come free of charge. By "freedom" here, I don't mean the sort of
freedom that comes in "safe" languages such as Ada and Java - in which the
buffer overflow raises an exception, probably requiring a restart of the
subsystem
    

In my experience with Ada 83, the potential for buffer overflow is detected
at compile time.  When I get an unexpected runtime exception, it is almost
always at the interface to another language.
  

-- 
Larry Kilgallen


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