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BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist(informIT)


From: gem at cigital.com (Gary McGraw)
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:30:19 -0400

hi all,

my preference is to lead with an Architectural Risk Analysis (and has been since 1997).

gem

http://www.cigital.com/~gem


On 3/20/09 3:07 PM, "Jim Manico" <jim at manico.net> wrote:

This is why I'm not fond if leading with a tool. I prefer to lead with architectural/design analysis and targeted 
manual review of high risk applications.

Jim Manico
jim at manico.net

On Mar 20, 2009, at 4:06 AM, "Goertzel, Karen [USA]" <goertzel_karen at bah.com> wrote:

Except when they're hardware bugs. :)

I think the differentiation is also meaningful in this regard: I can specify software that does non-secure things. I 
can implement that software 100% correctly. Ipso facto - no software bugs. But the fact remains that the software 
doesn't validate input because I didn't specify it to validate input, or it doesn't encrypt passwords because I didn't 
specify it to do so. I built to spec; it just happened to be a stupid spec. So the spec is flawed - but the implemented 
software conforms to that stupid spec 100%, so by definition it not flawed. It is, however, non-secure.

--
Karen Mercedes Goertzel, CISSP
Booz Allen Hamilton
703.698.7454
goertzel_karen at bah.com <mailto:goertzel_karen at bah.com>




-----Original Message-----
From: sc-l-bounces at securecoding.org on behalf of Benjamin Tomhave
Sent: Thu 19-Mar-09 19:28
To: Secure Code Mailing List
Subject: Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist(informIT)

Why are we differentiating between "software" and "security" bugs? It
seems to me that all bugs are software bugs, ...

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