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Re: Facing problem using AFPACKET


From: Anshuman Anil Deshmukh <anshuman () cybage com>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:14:31 +0000

Yes, both eth0 & eth1 is used for IPS as Snort system is sitting physically inline.

Here is the current setting for the RX & TX for eth0 & eth1. I believe this is what you have asked for?

# ethtool -g eth0
Ring parameters for eth0:
Pre-set maximums:
RX:             4096
RX Mini:        0
RX Jumbo:       0
TX:             4096
Current hardware settings:
RX:             256
RX Mini:        0
RX Jumbo:       0
TX:             256

# ethtool -g eth1
Ring parameters for eth1:
Pre-set maximums:
RX:             4096
RX Mini:        0
RX Jumbo:       0
TX:             4096
Current hardware settings:
RX:             256
RX Mini:        0
RX Jumbo:       0
TX:             256

Regards,
Anshuman

From: Y M [mailto:snort () outlook com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 3:11 PM
To: Anshuman Anil Deshmukh
Cc: snort-users
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Facing problem using AFPACKET


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From: anshuman () cybage com<mailto:anshuman () cybage com>
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net<mailto:snort-users () lists sourceforge net>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 09:14:04 +0000
Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Facing problem using AFPACKET
Hi,

We see the high latency of 1500-2000 when we ping the firewall at other end when Snort is running. Ping is executed 
from one of the systems in the Internal network. There are no issues seen when we setup a normal network bridge without 
Snort. We are not using iptables on Snort system. I am checking with the Niagara vendor if they have their own DAQ.

# Are both interfaces (eth0:eth1) used for the IPS from Niagara? Also, check the interfaces' RX and TX buffers.

Some preprocessors can be disabled by giving the parameter "disabled", but this parameter is not supported by all the 
preprocessors. So does it mean that just commenting them would make them disabled? If someone could throw a light on 
this would help.

# Commenting a preprocessor should disable it.

Also please suggest the recommend settings for memcap, server/client depths for http_inspect for the network bandwidth 
I have mentioned. And approach towards disabling the preprocessors like which ones should be disabled first. Also if 
there are any other setting that needs to be changed to troubleshoot / resolve my issue would also help.

# There is no way I can provide you with such values for memcap or any other configs for that matter. Not only because 
these are dependent on your environment, but also involve risk decisions YOU have to make.  I highly recommend that you 
read the documentation, for example, configuring server_flow_depth and client_flow_depth and how the values put affect 
traffic processing and Snort behavior.

YM

Regards,
Anshuman

From: Y M [mailto:snort () outlook com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:47 AM
To: Anshuman Anil Deshmukh
Cc: snort-users
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] Facing problem using AFPACKET

From: anshuman () cybage com<mailto:anshuman () cybage com>
To: snort-users () lists sourceforge net<mailto:snort-users () lists sourceforge net>
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 17:56:53 +0000
Subject: [Snort-users] Facing problem using AFPACKET
Hi,

We are trying to setup Snort inline with AFPACKET but we see very high latency say around 1500 to 2000 ms while doing 
so. We tried running Snort with different options but getting same result for all of them.

Options tried:
a.       Disabling all the rules (text based rules and so rules) with normalization enabled
b.      Disabling all the rules (text based rules and so rules) with normalization enabled disabling the decoder and 
preprocessor rules
c.       Disabling all the rules (text based rules and so rules) with normalization enabled disabling the decoder and 
preprocessor rules  with AFPACKET buffer size 512 / 1024 / 2048
d.      All above with no normalization
e.      All above with no normalization & AFPACKET in passive mode
f.        All above enabling just 3 subnets (by entering them under HOME_NET)

Additional information:
-          eth0 and eth1 are the interfaces used, both running in promiscuous mode with no IP address
-          LRO / GRO is off
-          This is how our physical connection is done for IPS - Internet --> Router --> Firewall --> Bandwidth 
management device (ALLOT) --> Snort --> Internal Network
-          Memory usage is below 50% but CPU usage remains 100% in all the cases
-          Operating system used is CentOS 6.5 (Final) running on Intel i7 processor and 4 GB of RAM
-          The overall internet bandwidth we intend to monitor is 155 MB currently which will scale upto 200 MB
-          We are using Niagara NIC's (1 GB NIC)
-          Snort version 2.9.6.1 (installed using Autosnort - https://github.com/da667/Autosnort)
-          We are with default memcap settings

Command line for Snort -
/usr/local/snort/bin/snort -A cmg -c /usr/local/snort/etc/snort_conf_norules.conf -i eth0:eth1 -Q --pid-path=/var/run
(and then running this same command without -Q option when in passive mode and configuring the snort conf for above 
options). I am attaching some log files created with same command above

Attach following files-
Snort configuration file (.conf file)
snort_no_daq_in_commandline_wonorm_passiveafpacket.log (this is the log file with all above options from a to e)..

Kindly help me in identifying the root cause for the issue. Please let me know in case any other information regards to 
our setup is needed.

Thank you.

Regards,
Anshuman

# The latency experienced was under which layer/application protocol? You will have to tweak down your preprocessors 
according to your traffic and the hardware you have (not only memcap, for example server/client depths in http_inspect, 
etc). As far as I understand, disabling preprocessor rules does not disable the preprocessor itself; traffic will still 
be inspected by the enabled preprocessors. Disable any preprocessor that you do not use.

# If you bridge eth0:eth1 (normal bridge, without running Snort) and simply letting the traffic pass through the box, 
do you experience the same latency? If so, check  your network driver/settings since you are using a sort of a special 
NIC. Also check iptables if there are rules in there.

# Do Niagara provide their own DAQ module? The reason I am asking is that I have seen other vendors having their own 
DAQ modules to be used with Snort, cannot recall which ones though.

YM
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