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Re: [ALERT] Remote File Execution By Web or Mail: Internet Explorer


From: Glenn Valenta <glenn () coloradostudios com>
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:21:21 -0700

Bill Weiss wrote:

Mariusz Mazur(mariusz () isn pl)@Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 08:09:46PM +0100:


Is this just me or maybe more people think that releasing this
"advisory" (though this should be called "intimidator") was completely
irresponsible and plain stupid?



I think the point was to show us that the MS policy is stupid.  There's a
hole, obviously it can be found, but MS doesn't want us to know about
it.

With all the new MS OSs and now the non-disclosure of vulnerabilities, it
seems to be a big drain on resources to cover all the potential
vulnerabilities with external kluges. When I compare the amount of support
time wasted on the security of MS products compared to the Macintosh, Linux
and SGI workstation, it makes me consider dumping windows all together.

I'm not the only person paying the MS penalty either. Since I either block or
defang all potentially executable attachments at our mailserver, all the users
have to waste time un-defanging attachments. Allot of web pages don't work
right because I block most ports on our firewall. We also have the
workstations preference files set up to prohibit activeX and java scripts from
running making some websites useless. 

The main facet of the problem is that there is no way to fully disable IE and
outlook from any MS product.  These seem to have been the foundation for most
all of the trojans and viruses the last few years. Just disabling these
products would have kept us safe from viruses for the last two years. I'm not
sure how I'm going to handle this passport crap yet except to ban XP from our
company.

MS has just increased the amount of time (through non-disclosure) we expend to
cover our asses. It's time for use to consider how much time we waste covering
our backside instead of moving forward. 

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