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Re: CSS, CSS & let me give you some more CSS


From: "Bill Pennington" <billp () boarder org>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 08:38:35 -0800

For any commercial site it is almost impossible to use any portion of the
address for "authentication" or non-repudiation. The main reason is AOL. The
last e-com site I managed 70% or our traffic came from AOL. IIRC AOL used
proxy "pods" for their netblocks. I would watch users hop from IP to IP and
sometime across entire subnets during a session. Now you could code your app
to break for AOL users but if you are a commercial entity that could present
a few problems.

The best use to IP address authentication is in a LAN environment where
users are far less likely to go address hoping.


----- Original Message -----
From: <info () elitesoft org>
To: "Obscure" <obscure () eyeonsecurity net>
Cc: "Joe Harrison" <list-general () ntlworld com>; "Securityfocus-Vulndev"
<vuln-dev () securityfocus com>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: CSS, CSS & let me give you some more CSS


If you use IP address for session cookie attacker can't use
stolen cookie.
However, you can't use IP address when BGP or Proxy are used.
In this case the best protection is to change session cookie
for each transaction using transaction counter.
This will provide a transaction non-repudiation.
If such session cookie is stolen and used by a hacker prior
to a user, then user session will be blown away.

Mike




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