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RE: [7.8.2002 44916] Notice of Copyright Infringement


From: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol () JustThe net>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:11:53 -0400 (EDT)

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Vinnie Lima wrote:


"Funny, if you are getting
DOSs'd or Spammed to hell, your ISP won't budge to fix it but, the MPAA
sends one letter and they threaten to cut you (the customer) off."

Isnt within the ISP's rights to require a SUBPOENA to do any intrusive
action including, but not limited to, shutting off a user's service? Or has
the new Digital Millenium Act supersedes that right?

As far as I know, no. If I determine you spammed or DOS'd someone from a 
DSL or dialup account you pay me for, no, I wouldn't typically demand a 
subpoena from the complainant. If I'm smart, I will exercise due 
dilligence in making damned sure that you *did* violate my policies, but 
checking my own server logs doesn't require a subpoena either.

You're thinking of times when someone demands information about a specific
subscriber - in that case, unless the service provider is a flaming idiot,
they will not give out any info about who the subscriber is, etc., without
a subpoena. But the decision to terminate service doesn't require the
release of any of your personal information to third parties.

**SJS (speaking as a service provider)

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