RE: ADVL vs VulnXML

["David Burton" <dburton () netcontinuum com>]

Interested parties who are OASIS members, including those who are also OWASP
members, are encouraged to review the charter and join if they are
interested in shaping the direction of AVDL. 

The TC charter contains all the relevant info to-date. The charter and the
call for participation in this TC can be viewed at:

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/avdl/charter.php

Dave Burton
NetContinuum, Inc.
www.netcontinuum.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Curphey [mailto:mark () curphey com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:46 PM
To: David Burton
Cc: securitydigest () hush com; webappsec () securityfocus com;
cbanzof () citadel com; jan () netcontinuum com; kheineman () spidynamics com;
advl-comment () lists oasis-open org
Subject: RE: ADVL vs VulnXML

I am sure this will be an interesting format. All web application
security initiatives are good for the industry in some way or another.

I am a little disappointed no one from OWASP was asked to join given the
vision document for VulnXML is very similar in spirit to what seems to
be being proposed and it was always an aim to take VulnXNL to OASIS. I
have mailed David directly to talk though that. 

It will be very interesting to see the vendors that join as that is
surely key to it being successful and of course if any copyrights are
placed on the format.

Good luck, something else cool to watch ;-) 


On Wed, 2003-04-02 at 15:08, David Burton wrote:
> AVDL is not intended to duplicate or replace any existing industry
standard
> and should be entirely complimentary to efforts like VulnXML. VulnXML
> focuses on creating more uniform ways for security researchers to describe
> and classify specific new vulnerabilities when they are initially
discovered
> in much the same way anti-virus researchers have been attempting to do for
> years. VulnXML attempts to add some of the detail needed to adequately
> describe application-layer vulnerabilities. The vendors proposing AVDL
> support VulnXML.
>
> We are proposing AVDL to address the broader business-oriented problem of
> how companies actually manage ongoing application security risk on a
> day-to-day basis. Managing application security risk in a highly dynamic
> environment can be an extraordinary challenge for security administrators.
> Fortunately, there are now a wide variety of best-of-breed products on the
> market to help companies with the task of discovering application
> vulnerabilities, blocking application-layer attacks, repairing vulnerable
> web sites, distributing patches and managing security events.
Unfortunately,
> these products have no universal way to communicate with each other,
making
> pragmatic management of this risk a highly manual, and often complex,
> process. 
>
> The goal of AVDL is to help companies begin managing the full application
> security lifecycle by providing a more uniform way of communicating
> application security vulnerabilities, policies and events via XML. It is
the
> full intent of the vendors proposing AVDL to repurpose any positive
progress
> that has already been made by the security community to date.
>
> Dave Burton
> NetContinuum, Inc.
> www.netcontinuum.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: securitydigest () hush com [mailto:securitydigest () hush com] 
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> To: webappsec () securityfocus com
> Cc: cbanzof () citadel com; jan () netcontinuum com; kheineman () spidynamics com;
> advl-comment () lists oasis-open org
> Subject: ADVL vs VulnXML
>
>
> I just noticed on OASIS the newly proposed Application Vulnerbility
> Description
> Language.
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=avdl
>
> How does this differ from OWASP VulnXML (http://www.owasp.org/vulnxml/)
> ?
>
> I don't see anyone from OWASP on the committee which is kinda interesting
> given they invented the concept over a year ago and have a database
running
> coming along so I hear. I hope this won't be a case of a few vendors
> trying to take thought leadership for something the open source community
> has already done!
>
>
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