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RE: Hacking/security in main-stream media


From: "Jeremiah Cornelius" <jeremiah () nur net>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 08:22:42 -0700

Shimomura and Markoff wrote a self-agrandizing distortion, which
inflated Mitnick's image as a dangerous criminal.  They contributed to a
hysteria that had Kevin incarcerated in _solitary_confinement_ without
charges for over a year.

Their book may be a good read.  A lot of literary fiction is.  Most
fiction  is not such a callous instrument of injury.

-----Original Message-----
From: Serg Belokamen [mailto:serg () fuzzyit com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:06 AM
To: webappsec () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Hacking/security in main-stream media

There is also a  book by Kevin Mitnick (and others imho) 
called The Art Of Deception, talking about social engineering.


    Serg

Arun Vishwanathan wrote:

Kevin Mitnick was caught by this guy called Tsutomu 
Shimomura. There is a book called "Takedown" by John Markoff 
which describes the whole episode. Nice read.

Regards,
Arun
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Draeger [mailto:fdraeger () csc com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:00 PM
To: Chacon, Oscar
Cc: Edward Miller; jasonmerriman11 () aol com; 'Levenglick, 
Jeff'; Mike Andrews; webappsec () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Hacking/security in main-stream media






There is a German TV movie about this story - from the hacker's view.
The name is "23" : http://imdb.com/title/tt0126765/





                                                            
                                                              
            
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Its called The Cuckoo's Egg.  My buddy was one of the guys 
who investigated
and caught Kevin Mitnick, or was it Kevin Poulsen?  The guy 
who disappeared
was most likely killed by German/Russian intelligence.

Oscar Chacon, CISA
Vice President & Manager
Information Security
Information Services Division
City National Bank
555 South Flower Street
Los Angeles, California 90071
Telephone:  213 - 673 - 8051
Facsimile:  213 - 637 - 3915
oscar.chacon () cnb com


-----Original Message-----
From: Levenglick, Jeff [mailto:JLevenglick () fhlbatl com]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 6:08 AM
To: Edward Miller; jasonmerriman11 () aol com
Cc: Mike Andrews; webappsec () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Hacking/security in main-stream media

This one might be the oldest that I know of.

I can't really remember the movie name. (its on the tip of 
my tongue...)
(something egg?)

It is based on the real story of a student who discovers 
that the school
was
being
used as a 'pass thru' to US military computers. I think it 
was back in the
70's.
I remember bits:

1 - He hooked up line printers to each phone line to trace 
the person and
print what he
was doing.
2 - He had each operator on a call and listened as each one 
traced and then
call the next operator.
3- They traced it to Germany. (If I remember correctly?)
4 - I think it was 3 hackers. 2 of them disappeared and the 
last one, in a
panic, spilled the beans. (He insisted that the govt was covering
everything
up and killed his friends)


Jeffrey

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Miller [mailto:EMiller () tax state va us]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 05:12 PM
To: jasonmerriman11 () aol com
Cc: Mike Andrews; webappsec () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: Hacking/security in main-stream media






how about Minority Report - biometric access control by retina scan




            "Jason Merriman"
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War Games - [Not sure yet, not managed to pickup the film]

Computer creator uses his son's name as the main password 
for the system.


Hackers - [Not sure yet, not managed to pickup the film]
Characters dumpster dive to get materials which assist in accessing
systems.


Mike Andrews wrote on 9/29/2004, 4:00 PM:

A bit off the wall, but as good a place to post this as any :)

I'm writing a tutorial/courseware on security (both basic 
topics and
programming) and I'm looking for clips from movies or tv 
to introduce
subjects - I've found that videos work well with 
introductions and short
breaks to getting the audience in the right frame of mind 
(as well as
getting them relaxed).  So far I have the following....

Jurassic Park - insider threat (the programmer gets the 
system to bypass
security while he steals the DNA/embryos)

Sneakers - Cryptography (when the team discovers it's a 
crypto box they
have)

The Net - Personally identifiable information (main 
characters personal
information is deleted)

War Games - [Not sure yet, not managed to pickup the film]

Hackers - [Not sure yet, not managed to pickup the film]

Any other suggestions?  I'm only wanting short (5min) 
sections, but I'm
willing to edit bit's out if needed.

Cheers,
Mike.


----
Mike Andrews
Florida Institute of Technology




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