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RE: looking for a webapp bruteforce video for non-techies
From: "Paul Melson" <pmelson () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:01:05 -0400
That may not actually be such a bad password (on balance and in context). Sure it is a dictionary/leet word variant, but five characters actually carry plenty of entropy (if mixed case and numerics are also used). However, if you have an authentication mechanism that doesn't lock out an account and *allows* brute forcing, it doesn't really matter how strong the password is; given enough universe-lifetimes an attacker will always guess it eventually.
I second Martin's comment. There's no point in talking to users about password selection if the application doesn't A) lock the account after X number of failed attempts *AND* B) force password expiration/rotation. There's a very basic mathematical formula found in the Department of Defense Password Management Guideline[1] that can be used to calculate the risk associated with any particular password policy versus brute force guessing. Definitely required reading for anyone designing or specifying a password authentication mechanism. PaulM [1] http://www.fas.org/irp/nsa/rainbow/std002.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sponsored by: Watchfire Methodologies & Tools for Web Application Security Assessment With the rapid rise in the number and types of security threats, web application security assessments should be considered a crucial phase in the development of any web application. What methodology should be followed? What tools can accelerate the assessment process? Download this Whitepaper today! https://www.watchfire.com/securearea/whitepapers.aspx?id=70170000000940F -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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