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TCP Dup Ack Issues with Comcast vs. Cablevision
From: William Howard <wghoward () optonline net>
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:31:46 -0500
We have been investigating what seems to be an obscure issue with regards to Comcast speeds wired vs. wireless "G" speeds on a 30/5 circuit.
Here are the symptoms:Wired (directly to modem): Speeds are what one would expect - 25-30 Mbps down and 4-5 Mbps up.
Wireless: Speeds are in the 6-9 Mbps. We have tried a variety of consumer and higher end APs/Wireless routers. All with the same basic results - the speeds are significantly slower.
* The wireless NIC was connected with a "good" signal at 54 Mbps. * I verified that wireless interference was not an issue. * I tried several different laptops to make sure that the particular wireless NIC was an issue. * The AP/Router were the only items on the circuit. Time of day did not matter as I tried going back and forth between wired and wireless - both produced consistent speeds each time.What we did discover is that when testing the same equipment on a cablevision/optimum online 30/5 circuit, the problems virtually disappear. Wired speeds are equivalent to Comcast but wireless speeds were in the 15-19 Mbps range.
In order to dig deeper, I captured wireshark traces for both wired/wireless on Comcast and Optimum Online circuits. The biggest difference I could find is that on the Comcast circuit both wired and wireless, there were many: TCP Dup ACK packets (see below for an example)
TCP [TCP Dup ACK 17802#55] http > apc-3052 [ACK] Seq=8154484 Ack=307815 Win=206848 Len=0 SLE=370595 SRE=447975 SLE=331175 SRE=335555I have seen the "tcp optimizers" and they have produced good results and have improved the Comcast speeds to 12-16 Mbps but it seems very odd that only Comcast seems to suffer from packets arriving out of order (or whatever is causing this) but Cablevision does not. I don't like the idea of having to change a client device when it seems like this problem lies within the Comcast network.
Has anyone seen this before? Is there a solution without changing the client laptop? We would like to have a solution that is hardware based (router or firmware) rather than telling users they must all make registry changes which makes us nervous (liability) and end-users irritated that "it works on other networks without a problem"
Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. Will Howard
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- TCP Dup Ack Issues with Comcast vs. Cablevision William Howard (Feb 26)
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- Re: TCP Dup Ack Issues with Comcast vs. Cablevision Alan Emery (Feb 26)