Re: Wireshark Installer on mac grew in size

[Guy Harris <guy () alum mit edu>]

On Jun 25, 2018, at 8:03 PM, Graham Bloice <graham.bloice () trihedral com> wrote:

> On Windows there are 2 approaches used:
>       • Install the PDB files alongside the application, this allows WER to annotate the dump logs produced with 
> symbols.
>       • Set up a public symbol server, add the symbols to that and then anyone can set their Windows debugger to pull 
> the appropriate symbols from the symbol server. The correct symbols are automagically retrieved.

The same is true on macOS; we're currently using the first approach, but I guess people aren't happy about the space 
taken up and/or the download time required for the macOS equivalent of PDB files, namely dSYM files (well, directories 
containing files, but I digress).

How big would the PDB files be?  If they're in the realm of 400-500 MB, the same complaints would presumably be made if 
we installed them automatically as part of the Wireshark installation process.

And "download them afterwards" or "install them optionally" is inferior to "have a symbol server", as "download them 
afterwards" or "install them optionally" doesn't help if the problem can't be reproduced after the symbols are 
downloaded or installed as part of a re-installation.

In addition, have a *symbolication* server means that people *not* running the OS on which the crash occurred can still 
get the crash symbolicated.

(Now, if we can somehow arrange to have the major Linux distributions somehow have a way to get symbolicated stack 
traces, that'd mean the majority of crashes will have nice symbolicated crash dumps or would have a way to get a nice 
symbolicated crash dump.)
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