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RE: FW: Exchange Server and External Access


From: "Cherian M. Palayoor" <cpalayoor () cwalkergroup com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:36:45 -0700



During my tests, it takes at least 5 minutes to load the mailboxes, calendar
etc.

Sending out emails with a 1 MB attachment necessitates a coffee break. Of
course the possibility of bottlenecks do exist.

But these are the primary reasons why vpn is not an attractive option.

Regards

CP
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Orozco [mailto:gabriel_orozco () mx sumida com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:26 AM
To: Cherian M. Palayoor; chort
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: FW: Exchange Server and External Access


For a-mail, 3 hops is nothing. this is email, not live content like video or
audio.

my opinion.
Regards
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cherian M. Palayoor" <cpalayoor () cwalkergroup com>
To: "chort" <chort () amaunetsgothique com>
Cc: <security-basics () securityfocus com>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: FW: Exchange Server and External Access




Hi there,

The vpn is not an option as it would mean at least 3 more hops and more
latency. Hence the necessity of setting up something on the DMZ.

Regards

CP


-----Original Message-----
From: chort [mailto:chort () amaunetsgothique com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 9:46 AM
To: Cherian M. Palayoor
Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: FW: Exchange Server and External Access


On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 16:53, Cherian M. Palayoor wrote:


Thanks for the suggestions.

Based on the feedback so far, there appears to 2 school of thought....

Solution 1) Have Exchange setup in a FE/BE configuration with the FE in
the
DMZ and the BE in the internal LAN. Have the FE poll the BE
through a secure link using SSL.

Problem : Too expensive, requires Exchange Enterprise and not to mention
Windows Advanced Server.
          Also it may not resolve the problem as what I am primarily
hoping
to achieve here is faster access time. We     presently  have
to traverse through  a WAN cloud and 2 firewalls to get to the Internet
and
the DMZ.

Solution 2) Move the Exchange Server to the DMZ and set it up either as an
OWA or POP3 Server.

Problem : This would affect internal user access speed and also the OWA
option would negatively impact users fed on a diet of Outlook's
convenience.

Is it possible to run a third part Server like possibly Sendmail  to front
end Exchange ?

Regards

CP


Any reverse-proxy solution can do this (for OWA, or POP3/IMAP4).  You
can still keep your Exchange server internal and put the reverse-proxy
in the DMZ.

There was also another excellent suggestion regarding setting up a BSD
box in the DMZ and putting a webmail application on it.  The webmail app
would mirror the messages from Exchange by using an IMAP4 connection
(from the DMZ host to Exchange).  If you're looking for cost-effective,
this would be the cheapest solution.

If there's a lot of latency for DMZ <-> trusted net traffic, there's
really no way around that other than pre-fetching messages to a DMZ host
and periodically updating them.  The external user would have very fast
access to the messages on the DMZ host, but would not be completely
in-sync with what's in their Exchange mailbox (also you couldn't delete
things out of your Exchange mailbox from the outside, since it's only a
copy).

Rather than trying to architect around network problems, perhaps you
could discover where the latency is so high?  It could very well be a
network misconfiguration, or a severely overloaded piece of hardware.

By the way, why is VPN not an option?

--
Brian Keefer



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