RE: Cisco Pix Vs. Symantec Velociraptor

["David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>]

  What makes it an appliance is that it's running a dedicated
configuration from the hardware up, not a general-purpose OS
with a firewall application.  Including a hard drive in the
hardware doesn't make it less of an appliance.
  (We have "appliances" fulfilling other network functions
that, according to their boot screens, include hard drives
internally....)

David Gillett

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stadler, Brian T [mailto:bstadler () ukans edu]
> Sent: March 19, 2003 09:46
> To: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: RE: Cisco Pix Vs. Symantec Velociraptor
>
>
> I kind of caught the middle of the thread, but wouldn't an
> appliance box not
> use a Hard Drive.  Something more along the lines of
> Non-Volatile memory,
> like the PIX.
>
> I'm not opposed to Firewalls having Hard Drives, I run many like that
> myself.  But, if you are going to install a firewall in front
> of a large
> network, where the firewall is the only way out, I'd want the
> least amount
> of moving parts in that device.
>
> Just a thought is all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Bradd [mailto:wbradd () comcast net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: Stadler, Brian T; security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: RE: Cisco Pix Vs. Symantec Velociraptor
>
>
> Why, most firewalls have HD's.
>
>
>
> At 04:28 PM 3/18/2003 -0600, Stadler, Brian T wrote:
> > There's a hard drive in the box?  If so that is scary.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SimonChan () lifeisgreat com sg
[mailto:SimonChan () lifeisgreat com sg]
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:15 PM
> To: Ted Frederick
> Cc: security-basics () securityfocus com
> Subject: Re: Cisco Pix Vs. Symantec Velociraptor
>
>
>
> Hi Ted,
>
> what are u interested in finding out ?
>
> I was at a Symantec Demo and this is what I see:
> * appliance based
> * setup is done using symantec ghost which creates an image on the
> appliance harddisk
> * There 's a front panel, where u used to set IP address, password
> * the managment's station Mac/Ip address is noted by the box, so choose the
> managment station carefully.
> * gui-based managment
>
>
>
> Rgds,
>
> Simon
>
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