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RE: Security Certs
From: "Nick Duda" <nduda () VistaPrint com>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:29:51 -0400
I'd like to just throw in my situation. It's kind of weird but its been good to me. I have 9 years exp in IT. Started as a hardware guy then network engineer/admin, now security admin. I feel that I know my share of things ranging from MS and *nix , Cisco, hardware, and most of all security. Up until last Dec I had one certs (1996 Win95 MCP lol), my exp. has been the plane I've been flying on. I've tried certs and for some reason I just cant focus on these multiple choice questions but rather know how to just "do stuff in real life". I am only certified Security+ and CCSA (checkpoint). I plan on doing more certs, if I can somehow learn the patience of reading a book and sitting an exam instead of 14 hour days of hacking away at stuff till I know the hands on way to do things. So without any well known certs I've keep stable full time work through this economy (knock on wood). - Nick -----Original Message----- From: David Gillett [mailto:gillettdavid () fhda edu] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:21 PM To: 'Chris Berry'; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Security Certs
.... To me they represent a minimum level of knowledge about a subject, so that for example, if the person is an MCSE and I ask them an active directory question, they shouldn't say "active what?", though it's no guarantee they'll actually know the right answer.
A few years back, I interviewed an MCSE for a network engineer position. Our environment was strictly 100-BaseT/Cat-5, so one didn't absolutely *need* to know anything else, but he was coming from working (as a civilian contractor, as I recall) on some Air Force base where they had a mix of 10-Base2 (co-ax) and UTP at 10 and 100 Mbps. So between having apparently passed the Networking Fundamentals requirement, and working daily with the mix, I figured he ought to be able to name at least *one* characteristic difference between 10-Base2 co-ax and 10/100 Cat-5. I would have taken almost any one. He couldn't, and that was one of two reasons he didn't get the job. (The other was that he considered himself too valuable as a "network designer" to crawl under a desk to plug in a cable....) David Gillett --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- Re: Security Certs, (continued)
- Re: Security Certs Mitchell Rowton (Oct 02)
- RE: Security Certs David Gillett (Oct 02)
- RE: Security Certs Chris Berry (Oct 02)
- RE: Security Certs David Gillett (Oct 02)
- Re: Security Certs Meritt James (Oct 02)
- RE: Security Certs David J. Jackson (Oct 02)
- Re: Security Certs Meritt James (Oct 02)
- Re: Security Certs Duncan (Oct 03)
- Re: Security Certs Meritt James (Oct 02)
- RE: Security Certs Nelson, Ernie (Oct 02)
- RE: Security Certs Chris Berry (Oct 02)
- RE: Security Certs Nick Duda (Oct 03)
- RE: Security Certs Myers, Marvin (Oct 03)
- RE: Security Certs m0use (Oct 06)
- Re: Security Certs Meritt James (Oct 06)