RE: Security Certifications

["Steve Fletcher" <safletcher () insightbb com>]

I agree totally.  Until hearing of this change, I was seriously considering
pursuing the GSEC cert.  I will admit it is probably easier to obtain now,
but that's the problem.  It is now EASIER to obtain.  I was look for
something that would be harder to earn than the certs that I already have,
not just as easy as.

I guess the CISSP is my best option now, at least until the cheapen that
one, too......

Steve Fletcher
MCSE (NT4/Win2k), MCSE: Security (Win2k), HP Master ASE, CCNA, Security+
safletcher () insightbb com

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Parker [mailto:dparker () bridonsecurity com] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 6:45 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com; Nathaniel Hall
Subject: Re: Security Certifications

I seriously doubt that I will renew my two certs with GIAC. Cannot
adequately

express how disappointed I am with the watering down of them. This is not
the

first time GIAC has made these certs easier. Hopefully Mr. Northcutt is

subscribed to this list.



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Don Parker, GCIA GCIH

Intrusion Detection & Incident Handling Specialist

Bridon Security & Training Services

http://www.bridonsecurity.com

voice: 1-613-302-2910

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On Mon Mar 14 12:05 , Nathaniel Hall  sent:



> I just found out about this too.  I can understand how this would make 

> it easier to get the certification too, but it still requires money and 

> renewal.  Not everybody would be willing to renew every two or four 

> years  unless they really wanted to put forth the effort.  Hopefully we 

> will see some changes that will keep the certs as a prestigious 

> accomplishment.

>

> Don Parker wrote:

> > GIAC has recently made massive changes to their certifications. You now
only have

> >

> > to do the exams as there is no more practical portion. A poor decision on
their

> >

> > part in my opinion for this is what made them stand apart from the other
certs.

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> > --------------------------------------------------------------

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> > Don Parker, GCIA GCIH

> >

> > Intrusion Detection & Incident Handling Specialist

> >

> > Bridon Security & Training Services

> >

> > http://www.bridonsecurity.com

> >

> > voice: 1-613-302-2910

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> > On Sat Mar 12 15:31 , Nathaniel Hall  sent:

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> > > Mike B wrote:

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> > > > Hello Everybody,

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> > > > I just finished my master's degree in Information Security from Stevens 

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> > > > Institute of Technology and I am looking to get my first security 

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> > > > certification.  I've read about the many security certifications out 

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> > > > there, and I have decided to go with the Security+ certification from 

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> > > > CompTIA.  How does everybody feel about this certification?  I would've 

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> > > > rather tried to get the CISSP but you need experience for that, and 

> >

> >

> > > > that's something that I don't have right now.  Is this a good first 

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> >

> > > > certification in the Information Security Field or are there better
ones?

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> > > > Mike B.

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> > > Personally, I would go for the GSEC from GIAC.  Visit www.sans.org to 

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> > > find out when training is.  Unfortunately, the class and cert is about 

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> > > $3100.  It isn't the easiest to get, but if you put in the time and 

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> >

> > > effort, you get a cert that not everyone gets from an organization that 

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> > > is looked up to for security.

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> > > -- 

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> > > Nathaniel Hall, GSEC

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> > > Intrusion Detection and Firewall Technician

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> > > Ozarks Technical Community College -- Office of Computer Networking

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> > > halln () otc edu

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> > > 417-447-7535

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> > > GPG Public Key ID: 0xAC187312

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> -- 

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> Nathaniel Hall, GSEC

> Intrusion Detection and Firewall Technician

> Ozarks Technical Community College -- Office of Computer Networking

>

> halln () otc edu

> 417-447-7535

> GPG Public Key ID: 0xAC187312

>