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RE: Verifying E-Mail Addresses


From: "Jimmie Jones" <jimmie.jones () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:55:03 -0700

That would be unreliable as a lot of companies/ISPs have relays in front of
their mail servers to protect against DHA or Directory Harvest Attacks
(among other things) to keep people from finding out what users actually
exist.

-----Original Message-----
From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On
Behalf Of Krpata, Tyler
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:04 PM
To: Mister Dookie; security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Verifying E-Mail Addresses

The SMTP VRFY command is supposed to do this, but most mail servers
disable it due to privacy concerns. There's no other reliable way to do
it. In theory you might be able to write something custom that goes to
the mail server and does a "mail from/rcpt to" and checks the response,
but that may be unreliable and could potentially be frowned upon by the
ISP.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mister Dookie [mailto:misterdookie () gmail com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:03 PM
To: security-basics () securityfocus com
Subject: Verifying E-Mail Addresses

Hello list,

Is there a way to verify that an e-mail address
(e.g."johnsmith () company com") is valid and exists or does not exist
(is a fake e-mail address) without actually sending a message to that
address and awaiting the response?

Here's why this is a security issue. Our company administers a small
"municipal-type" 802.11 network where for limited open-access the only
form of ID we require is an e-mail address and a password. We simple
don't have the resources to send out e-mails and then have
verification and so forth. We are trying to prevent users from
entering fake addresses into our system. We want at least a small
amount of accountability.

We would like to be able to do a quick check, say query an IMAP, POP3,
or SMTP and check to see if there is actually an account at that
address without sending a verification e-mail and waiting for users to
click on a link or get something that bounces back. Does something
like that exist?

I do recognize that somebody can enter a valid e-mail address that
does not belong to them, but we are trying to address one issue at a
time. At this point we are just trying to prevent people who give us
"dude () dude com" from getting on to our network.

Thanks,
John

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