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RE: General question
From: "David Gillett" <gillettdavid () fhda edu>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:37:24 -0800
Your boss is incompetent. Details of individual compensation are either (a) public, as a result of a collective bargaining contract, or (b) confidential to the employee in question, their manager, and the payroll department within HR. In neither case is it appropriate for a manager to discuss them with another employee, and so I have to immediately wonder what other parts of Management 101 your boss slept through. The statement is wrong on multiple other levels as well, ranging from "does he even know what I do?" to "managers should *never* put themselves in the position of explaining to an employee *why* they are being UNDERPAID -- because that presumes that they ARE". Years back, a senior partner asked my boss why morale in our department was "so poor", and she diplomatically answered that we didn't feel that we were being treated as professionals. (She *could* have been considerably less diplomatic in her phrasing, but she needed the job....) Supposedly he answered "Well, you're not. Professionals make over $XXX per year." When the story made the rounds to me, my immediate realization was that there was only ONE reason I was making less than $XXX, and it was *who I was working for*, not what I was doing! So I knew it was time to move on, and did. David Gillett
-----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Francois Yang Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:31 AM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: General question what if your boss told you that the network engineers who maintain the network and servers got paid more (10k more) than you the security analyst because they DO MORE THINGS? what would be your reaction? In my situation I was like WTF (to myself of course) and basically said that it was a totally different area and job description. That also bought to my attention that maybe he didn't really read my resume, cuz I was doing network administration for the past 6 yrs before I got this job. Now what does that tell you about the boss and my job? -- If you think technology can solve your security problems, then you don't understand the problems and you don't understand the technology. Bruce Schneier -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- This list is sponsored by: BigFix If your IT fails, you're out of business - or worse. Arm your enterprise with BigFix, the single converged IT security and operations engine. BigFix enables continuous discovery, assessment, remediation, and enforcement for complex and distributed IT environments in real-time from a single console. Think what's next. Think BigFix. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;82309979;15562032;o?http://www.b igfix.com/ITNext/ -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------
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- RE: General question, (continued)
- RE: General question Craig Wright (Feb 23)
- RE: General question Craig Wright (Feb 23)
- RE: General question Devin Rambo (Feb 26)
- Re: General question Adam Kane (Feb 23)
- Re: General question Jason P. Rusch (Feb 23)
- RE: General question Robinson, Sonja (Feb 26)
- Re: General question Francois Yang (Feb 26)
- RE: General question Robinson, Sonja (Feb 26)
- Re: General question Joseph McCray (Feb 23)
- Re: General question Nathaniel Hall (Feb 23)
- Re: General question steve dake (Feb 26)
- RE: General question David Gillett (Feb 26)
- Re: General question krymson (Feb 23)
- RE: General question Kevin Feck (Feb 26)
- RE: General question Bob Radvanovsky (Feb 26)