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Re: re: Security and the Under 30 User
From: defrainJ () gmail com
Date: 7 Feb 2008 19:44:04 -0000
d like to weigh in on the issue as a 23 year old grad student studying Network Security, with about 6 months experience working as a security engineer. Quote from Net-Sec: [I have been doing network security consulting for over 15 years. I also do several public service IT security presentations to community and professional groups each month. In either environment, I consistently get a hostile reception from those under 30. The attitude I get is "IT security is a bunch of moronic bull (expletive deleted) dreamed up by paranoid moronic geezers to justify their existence.] I think regardless of age even with all the high profile attacks in the news it seems like people in general reacts this way but expresses it differently. Convincing the users who are over 30 to not click on every email attachment and the importance of windows updates is often and up hill battle. Granite they might not communicate there dislike of it using expletives and that nonsense probably because they are more mature and professional NET-SEC QUOTE: [You mention key stoke loggers and other spyware, the attitude I get is "If you don't have anything to hide, then you have nothing to worry about." Or, "Why should I worry about privacy? Every aspect of my life is already out there for anyone to read in my blog on MySpace.] If thats their attitude about privacy they are bloody idiots. If my generation doesn't get pissed off about warrantless wire tapping the new electronic suriveliance act that is pending , Real ID.....than we all need to put down the WII and do our civic duty. NET-SEC QUOTE: [1) I have had many people claim that they would be willing to pay $5 to $25 per transaction just to be able to continue to use online banking if that was what was required to offset the fraud costs. When probing deeper, the per transaction cost appears to be about one-half hour's pay. Just for the convenience of not having to write a check or use snail mail.] I absolutely despise writing checks or doing anything on paper. Your friend was probably exaggerating a little bit, but I do everything online and would throw a huge fit if somebody took that away. NET-SEC QUOTE: 2) I have heard several of the younger crowd claim that it is common practice that when you get mad at your bank, just post your credit card information on-line so that the bank gets a bunch of fraudulent charges against the card and cancels it. They see it as a way to punish the bank for upping their interest rate or imposing late fees.) That is the most insane thing I have ever heard of. I doubt anyone can be that stupid. I think they were just trying to mess with you. NET-SEC QUOTE: n the corporate world, the attitude is even worse. I have a client that recently implemented web content filtering that blocks the social networking sites, blogs, chat rooms, and other non-business content. That resulted in the mass resignation of under 30 staff, because "I can't work here if I can't keep in contact with my friends while I work." Some are even screaming "age discrimination" because sites like FoxNews or CNN 'that the old geezers use' were not blocked. My generation has this sense of entitlement that somehow at work we should be able to use company assets such as computers as if they our own. Under 30's need to grow up and realize at work you are there to do work not screw around poking some hot girl on facebook that you want to get attention from or going through your ex-girlfriends pictures to see if she's hanging around any new guys. The age discrimination argument is hilarious to me. Apparently only old people like to be informed about current events. The people you are presenting to on a whole seem pretty immature. I do not believe that reflects on our entire generation. But I could be mistaken I guess there could be many more 20 something idiots out there who somehow managed to land decent jobs.
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- RE: Security and the Under 30 User, (continued)
- RE: Security and the Under 30 User Malhoit, Lauren (Feb 08)
- RE: Security and the Under 30 User Worrell, Brian (Feb 08)
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- Re: Security and the Under 30 User Chris Pick (Feb 08)
- RE: Security and the Under 30 User Mason, Samuel (Feb 11)
- Re: Security and the Under 30 User Mike Hale (Feb 11)
- RE: Security and the Under 30 User Timmothy Lester (Feb 11)
- OT: Getting Mails three times tomsec (Feb 11)
- RE: Getting Mails three times Joe Klein (Feb 11)
- RE: Getting Mails three times Robert Holtz (Feb 11)
- Re: OT: Getting Mails three times Valentine Gostev (Feb 12)
- AW: OT: Getting Mails three times tomsec (Feb 12)
- RE: Security and the Under 30 User James Winzenz (Feb 11)