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Re: Length vs Complexity


From: Walter Goulet <wgoulet () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:15:14 -0500

I would agree with your argument; longer passwords will create a
larger keyspace more rapidly than a shorter password with more
complexity rules.

The way I think about it is like this:

A 8 character password that is restricted to the 52 upper/lowercase
letters plus valid digits 0-9 is going to have a total of 62 possible
values for each position, for a total of 62^8 possible passwords (218
trillion or so). If you increase the length to just 12 characters, you
get like 62^12 or approx. 3 trillion possible password values.

If you instead permit users to say use all printable ASCII characters
(128 possible values for each position), you are just changing the
base value (128^8 or 72 quintillion or so).

So, by requiring longer passphrases you are exponentially increasing
the size of the keyspace.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mike Razzell <m.razzell () gmail com> wrote:
Users hear constantly that they should add complexity to their
passwords, but from the math of it doesn't length beat complexity
(assuming they don't just choose a long word)?  This is not to suggest
they should not use special characters, but simply that something like
Security.Basics.List would provide better security than D*3ft!7z.  Is
that correct?

Thanks,
-Mike

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