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Re: Microsoft and Security
From: "Justin Wheeler" <jwheeler () datademons com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:58:28 -0400
The simple argument I was making was that if MS' "testing process" is what keeps patches from coming out in a timely manner, perhaps they should actually be of decent quality. When you're getting patches that are both slow to release, as well as adversely affecting the systems they're being installed on, MS has met neither of their agends. Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alun Jones" <alun () texis com> To: "'Justin Wheeler'" <jwheeler () datademons com>; "'Radoslav Dejanovic'" <radoslav.dejanovic () opsus hr>; <bugtraq () securityfocus com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 5:06 PM Subject: RE: Microsoft and Security
Justin Wheeler <mailto:jwheeler () datademons com> wrote on Monday, June 28, 2004 5:42 AM:Perhaps that'd be a better argument, if there weren't countless patches from MS in the past that broke other things..... okay, so you're arguing that even more QA and more testing should be done... but in far less time.And I'd also be more likely to believe that if there weren't MS patches out there that fix one particular bug, but completely ignore other ones that are nearly IDENTICAL to it.... and while you're at it, you'd like us to spend even more time
searching
for ways to expand our search for the bug's potential impact, rather than releasing a smaller fix, with minimal impact, as soon as possible. I can't even remotely call myself a Microsoft spokesman - but I am trying
to
figure out exactly what you're looking for. Perhaps it's just a platform
to
vent at Microsoft - fine, vent away. If you have any suggestions for improving the process, perhaps you should try and express those
suggestions
in a coherent manner that could be used, rather than choosing several contradictory stances and insisting that Microsoft satisfy them all. Alun. ~~~~
Current thread:
- RE: Microsoft and Security Alun Jones (Jul 05)
- RE: Microsoft and Security Radoslav Dejanovic (Jul 05)
- Re: Microsoft and Security Justin Wheeler (Jul 05)
- RE: Microsoft and Security Alun Jones (Jul 06)
- RE: Microsoft and Security David F. Skoll (Jul 06)
- Re: Microsoft and Security Adam Shostack (Jul 07)
- Re: Microsoft and Security Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 09)
- Re: Microsoft and Security Charles Otstot (Jul 16)
- Re: Microsoft and Security Lucas Holt (Jul 18)
- RE: Microsoft and Security Alun Jones (Jul 06)