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Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes
From: "David F. Skoll" <dfs () roaringpenguin com>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:45:31 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Simon wrote:
Sometimes, IMHO, there's just no alternative to pen and paper. Surely the manual method of ticking a box and having multiple human vote counters checking ballots is the best option going, even if it is more expensive. (I confess I've no idea what costs are involved either way.)
According to Elections Canada, the 2000 general election cost $200.6 million (Canadian dollars). But this included everything, including maintenance of voter registries, reimbursement of expenses to political parties and candidates, etc. Source: http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e In that election, there were 28,846,761 voters, so the cost per voter was around $6.95 Canadian, or $5.43 US. I suspect that the cost to actually count the votes is significantly less than this figure. I have no idea what the figures are for electronic voting, but I doubt it can be done for much under $4 to $5/voter. Consider that the average polling station contributes a couple of hundred votes to the total. So you can hire six people at $25/hour for 5 hours each (two shifts) to man the station and count the ballots afterwards, and you've spent $750, some of which you recover in the form of income tax. :-) Now how many voting machines would such a polling station require? And can you buy a super-de-duper-de-luxe voting machine for $750? -- David.
Current thread:
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes, (continued)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Yoav Nir (Sep 27)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Paul Wouters (Sep 27)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Crispin Cowan (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Adam Shostack (Sep 29)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Greg A. Woods (Sep 27)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Marco S Hyman (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Simon (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Colm Buckley (Sep 29)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes David F. Skoll (Sep 29)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes float (Sep 30)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes David F. Skoll (Sep 30)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Marco S Hyman (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Nicholas Knight (Sep 27)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Bob Toxen (Sep 28)
- Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Kurt Seifried (Sep 28)
- RE: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Account Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes Reed, Phillip C. (LNG-DAY) (Sep 30)