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RE: Security Expert Certificates
From: "Stephen Scharf" <sscharf () atstake com>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 09:25:34 -0500
I think the real question is why you want them and what are you trying to achieve in your professional career. If you are a consultant, having a CISSP can be an advantage when faced with a customer that buys into the certification hype. It becomes more of a conversation stopper rather than starter. If a client wants a CISSP then you have filled the void, if they do not care (as most of them do not), it is usually not even mentioned in the conversation. It is simply one more tool in your arsenal for selling yourself. In most cases I would rather have a cert and not need it, then need a cert and not have it (so sayith the NRA). It is true that most people who get the CISSP cannot write exploits, but then again the cert is designed for security management, rather than security pen testers. Security is a large arena and writing exploits is only one of the seating sections. If that is the place you want to sit, and you are not a consultant, then CISSP might not be for you. -Stephen -----Original Message----- From: dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com [mailto:dailydave-bounces () lists immunitysec com] On Behalf Of Dave Aitel Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:45 AM To: dailydave () lists immunitysec com Subject: Re: [Dailydave] Security Expert Certificates *** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION *** *** Status: Unknown Signature *** Signer: Unknown Key (0xD83C252F) *** Signed: 3/26/2004 7:44:55 AM *** Verified: 3/26/2004 9:13:30 AM *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** My personal opinion is that they're not worth what you pay for them. While some employers do value them, I think if you are the type of person who would get one, you're better off having something like "Can write exploits" on your resume instead. I also know some employers who either ignore them completely, or count them against you - and you can read the old CISSP or GIAC "papers" to see why. -dave Aviv Revach wrote: | Hi, | | I started thinking of taking some security exam in order to get a | security expert certificate. I surfed the net and came accross CISSP, | SSCP, and other certificates (such as Ethical Hacking by | InfoSec) which force you to take a course.. | | I wonder if anyone here has one of these certificates and can give me | an advice whether it's worth anything.. If you have any | recommendations regarding other certificates - I would be glad to hear | them. | | | Best Regards, Aviv Revach | | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | | | | _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list | Dailydave () lists immunitysec com | http://www.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://www.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://www.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
Current thread:
- Re: Security Expert Certificates, (continued)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates Dave Aitel (Mar 26)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates Darryl Luff (Mar 26)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates Anton A. Chuvakin (Mar 30)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates Rodney Thayer (Mar 30)
- RE: Security Expert Certificates Steve W. Manzuik (Mar 30)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates jan . muenther (Mar 30)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates Dave Aitel (Mar 26)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates Jay D. Dyson (Mar 26)
- RE: Security Expert Certificates Steve W. Manzuik (Mar 26)
- RE: Security Expert Certificates Ken Pfeil (Mar 26)
- RE: Security Expert Certificates sullo (Mar 26)
- RE: Security Expert Certificates Stephen Scharf (Mar 26)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates jan . muenther (Mar 26)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates Rodney Thayer (Mar 26)
- RE: Security Expert Certificates Robert E. Lee (Mar 27)
- Re: Security Expert Certificates jan . muenther (Mar 26)
- Re: Fwd: Re: Security Expert Certificates jan . muenther (Mar 30)