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Re: Lame studies that people quote as fact that have no basis in reality and still don't prove anything even if they did
From: "Anton A. Chuvakin" <anton () chuvakin org>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:33:19 -0500 (EST)
This is crap. If you spend your whole life looking for security bugs in your product, then you find them. Continuously. You'll end up finding at
It well might be crap (I personally don't know), but I think his main point was: "Yes, it's faster and cheaper to design security into software than bolt it on afterward. But it's even fasterer and cheaperer to build crappy software to get the project rolled out immediately, please your boss and help the company make its quarterly number. Guess which path most organizations will always take." rather than whatever "6.5" times numbers to compare before and after QA. Best, -- Anton A. Chuvakin, Ph.D., GCIA, GCIH http://www.info-secure.org http://www.securitywarrior.com _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://www.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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