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Re: Risk Management Services
From: "Dave Aitel" <dave.aitel () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 00:58:07 -0400
According to Ryan Naraine[1], they're making 12 Million dollars a year selling that and Retina, so someone's using it. Oddly, it's the exact same amount of money that Sana just took in. Weird day in HIDS land. I spent all night trying to massage the Mercur IMAP NTLM bug into submission. Still nothing. Sometimes the hoolios are the hardest exploits. Apparently people actually use these weird little Windows servers though so they're worth doing. That's what I'm telling myself, after 10 hours on Mercur, anyways. -dave [1]http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=148 On 4/2/07, C Q <kyle.c.quest () gmail com> wrote:
There's probably two reasons why nobody wants to buy HIDS... First, which especially applies to Blink (made by eEye), it's because it's unusable... I turned it off and uninstalled it after using it for just a few minutes. Second, companies rely on their significant investements in firewalls, IPSes, application proxies, etc and they feel that they are protected enough (I'm not saying that they are correct in their assumptions, but that's what they usually think :-) ). Companies do, however, buy other types of host-based "risk management systems" that try to protect their IP, sensitive information, etc, which also helps them with compliance (SOX,HIPAA,PCI,etc). On 4/2/07, Dave Aitel <dave.aitel () gmail com> wrote: > A HIDS shakeup? Sana takes in more money and Ross Brown gets fired from > eEye's CEO all in the same day? I never can get anyone to buy HIDS. We often > recommend it in our reports, but no company ever bites the bullet and does > it. Perhaps when they think HIDS they think this: > http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/content/pic2903.jpg . > > I wanted to point out that Applied Security has posted the results from > their shmoocon hacking contest (note that I come in last!). > http://www.appliedsec.com/conferences.html > > They've also got a server set up so everyone can play, which, I have to > say, takes cojones. I guess that's the sort of thing you can do when you are > a sponsor for GRSecurity. > > -dave > > > _______________________________________________ > Dailydave mailing list > Dailydave () lists immunitysec com > http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave > > _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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Current thread:
- Risk Management Services Dave Aitel (Apr 02)
- Re: Risk Management Services C Q (Apr 02)
- Re: Risk Management Services Dave Aitel (Apr 02)
- Re: Risk Management Services Paul Melson (Apr 03)
- Re: Risk Management Services Jeff Moore (Apr 03)
- Re: Risk Management Services Dave Aitel (Apr 02)
- Re: Risk Management Services Adriel T. Desautels (Apr 03)
- Re: Risk Management Services C Q (Apr 02)
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- Re: Risk Management Services trklisted (Apr 03)
- Re: Risk Management Services Mark Teicher (Apr 03)
- Re: Risk Management Services trklisted[at]networksamurai[dot]org (Apr 03)
- Re: Risk Management Services Mark Teicher (Apr 03)
- Re: Risk Management Services Jeff Moore (Apr 03)