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Re: Speculation
From: dan () geer org
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:05:23 -0400
mmaiffret () inveniosecurity com writes -+--------------------------------- | Really it is a sad reminder that the current state of | the art when it comes to security and the resiliency | of our systems has a lot to do with making sure the | good guys only talk about things behind closed doors | while hoping that bad guys don't figure things out | before we can patch. | Two thoughts, one an example of something that could easily be done and would cause havoc hence, arguably, I should not write it here; the other an observation about the constraint space in which we live. (1) Some of you will have craftier ideas, but here's how to take a plane out of the sky, assuming you are willing to suicidily go with it... Fill an aluminum walking cane with thermite, put a magnesium strip in your wallet, and a book of matches in your undies. Take whatever flight has the longest transoceanic segment with no place to land and, at the halfway point, go in the bathroom and light off your cane. It will burn through the floor and depressurize the plane forcing a descent to perhaps 8,000 feet where fuel efficiency falls so low that there will be no place to make land but plenty of time to radio a mayday to the world press. (2) Security and resiliency are at odds and all the more so if you consider data availability as the top of the requirements heap. (100% availability tends to argue for many disjoint copies while security tends to want as few copies as are the maximum that can be decisively controlled from a single point.) --dan _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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