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Re: Give us your tired, your poor, your exploit writers yearning to breath free!


From: Charles Miller <cmiller () securityevaluators com>
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:10:38 -0600

Crap, I'm traveling to France in January.  My laptop is probably  
considered a weapon of mass destruction there :(

Charlie


On Nov 30, 2009, at 10:46 AM, dave wrote:

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Team France pointed out that the legal situation for our industry has
gotten even more murky in France. Apparently today a judgement against
Chaouki Bekrar (the owner of the French company VUPEN, I am told) has
gone public convicting them of selling the WMF exploit. The fine was
1000 EU but of course, any conviction here is extremely damaging to  
the
French security industry.

There's a pretty big can of worms here the French legal system is  
going
to have to eat now. How do you know a bug is patched? What is "valid
intent for having 0day?" VUPEN is a security company, after all.

All governments typically see is "Wouldn't it be great if people could
only legally sell 0days to us?" But it's not nearly that simple. If  
you
thought the "war on strong cryptography" was fun, then you're going to
absolutely love the "war on 0days"!


"""
Cedric Blancher blog entry:
http://sid.rstack.org/blog/index.php/375-lcen-m-a-tuer-ou-pa

Law article:
http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=LEGITEXT000005789847&dateTexte=20091129

Short Law article:
http://droit-finances.commentcamarche.net/legifrance/37-code-penal/89982/article-323-3-1

Judgement:
http://www.evematringe.fr/blog/documentation/ca-montpellier-3-ch-corr-12-mars-2009-n%C2%B00801431/
"""

- -dave
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