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Re: INFILTRATE 2014 Movie Release: Dickie George
From: Kristian Erik Hermansen <kristian.hermansen () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 09:13:52 -0700
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Dave Aitel <dave () immunityinc com> wrote:
Immunity doesn't do a mass release of the videos for INFILTRATE, but some of them are coming out! Here is the first one from 2014's conference, Dickie George's keynote talk on his time at the NSA and various things that are important. http://vimeo.com/97891042
This was a really insightful keynote and is important. Of particular importance is the fact that Dickie George confirms the NSA performs routine economic espionage to win contractual international bids, despite all the rebuttals from NSA and their champions. This has been opined for a long time by cypherpunks like Jacob Appelbaum who has access to a lot of ex-NSA insider whistleblowers and helped Snowden escape to Russia. I know Mr. Dave Aitel (ex-NSA) thinks people like Edward Snowden (and Jake) are the most evil people in the world, but if the White House -- as public officials representative of the American people -- would just tell the truth, then perhaps we could vote properly about such issues. Because our government lies about such things, only whistleblowers can shed light on the true state of the world, which is vastly different than public officials lead us to believe. Until that time, whistleblowers like Snowden have little choice other than to hold the government accountable. Public officials are supposed to lead public lives and be held publicly accountable. This is primarily the job of our media. Private citizens are supposed to live private lives and retain their privacy. What we see in 2014 (really since 2001) is that this dichotomy is actually flipped. Public officials are living secretive, unaccountable lives while private citizens have their secrets completely exposed to surveillance. This is a violation of the fourth amendment. So, if you respect the constitution at all, you may choose to re-think your perspective on Snowden.
From another perspective, I think we all agree that the NSA is
necessary for protecting us from the ~really bad stuff~ in the world. We can all agree on that. But hopefully, we can find a balance where both privacy is retained and the majority of bad stuff is prevented. You can't prevent ~all the bad things~ / terrorism no matter what the NSA black budget is, just like even if you had a corporate budget of $100,000,000,000, you could not prevent a sophisticated hacker from successfully penetrating your network... What follows are links exposing the lies from public officials to private citizens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMN2360LM_U#t=16m30s """ 16:29that the NSA through the state department gave Boeing 16:33a number to bed when bidding against Airbus so the state surveillance 16:36mechanism was using corporate espionage so that Boeing could win because what's 16:40good for boeing is good for america 16:42so that they could win a bid against Airbus that's crazy to think of it being 16:46used that way 16:47but it wasn't created for that all it was created so that people could see 16:50secure and may be safe from some serious violence """ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYaCy53a3tk#t=0m33s """ 0:31there is a significant an important 0:35distinction between the gathering intelligence for national security 0:38reasons 0:39which the United States does and surely China does and virtually every other 0:43nation on earth 0:44does and the gathering economic data 0:47for the purpose of providing a _competitive advantage_ to 0:53country like two companies in your own country that is not something that the 0:57United States does """ http://vimeo.com/97891042#t=6m0s """ 6:00 -- NSA: ~if we are negotiating with other countries, the would like to know what the positions are (to win the bid)~ """ -- Regards, Kristian Erik Hermansen https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristianhermansen https://google.com/+KristianHermansen _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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