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Re: INFILTRATE 2014 Movie Release: Dickie George
From: Haroon Meer <haroon () thinkst com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 10:47:25 +0300
Heya(s) On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <kristian.hermansen () gmail com> wrote:
This was a really insightful keynote and is important. Of particular importance is the fact that Dickie George confirms the NSA performs routine economic espionage to win contractual international bids, despite all the rebuttals from NSA and their champions.
I'm pretty sure that this trope is well & truly put to bed (and has been for a while). In a recent (excellent) Risky Business podcast [http://risky.biz/RB322] Dr Hugh White (former Senior Adviser to Defence Minister and Prime Minister && Deputy Secretary for Strategy, Department of Defence) added: [35:46s] "The argument that the Americans are making, that is that we may collect economic intelligence but that we don't do it for the commercial benefit of our companies, would not actually stand, i think, a very solid scrutiny over history" "if you look at the role of the United States government in supporting US commercial interests, for example, US oil companies, over the decades, i think the proposition that the United States never uses national intelligence assets to support american companies will be very hard to sustain" It's kinda interesting, that when we talk of the IC not being used _that_ way in the US, we ignore documented cases like the 1953 Iranian Coup [1] where the CIA led operation TPAJAX, to overthrow the democratically elected prime minister and his cabinet (installing an absolute monarch instead) to protect its oil interests in the region These events (as far as i know) are not contested.. I think, as always, Thucydides holds true: "Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - This is the way of the world and always has been, but understanding it should not be confused with justifying it (or whitewashing it). /mh [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat -- Haroon Meer | Thinkst Applied Research http://thinkst.com/pgp/haroon.txt Tel: +27 83 786 6637 _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunityinc com https://lists.immunityinc.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave
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