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Re: RIAA timestamps off
From: "Scholz, Greg" <gscholz () KEENE EDU>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:00:27 -0400
I am not sure how most of the P2P apps work (e.g. can they advertise their list without having a transfer channel available). But let say it advertised as available but the outside world can't get to it...what about other users on the same campus? And would the netflow data everyone is talking about show it? And liken that to a confession from someone that did not do the crime, wouldn't there usually at least be an investigation? _________________________ Thank you, Gregory R. Scholz Lead Network Engineer Information Technology Group Keene State College (603)358-2070 --Seek first to understand, and then to be understood. (Steven Covey) -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kell [mailto:jeff-kell () UTC EDU] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:39 PM To: SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU Subject: Re: [SECURITY] RIAA timestamps off Scholz, Greg wrote:
So UserX logs into limewire, song list is made public. 10 hrs later song list is still public but no one may be actually pulling the data. Technically it is the making of the infringing material available that is the "crime" so the user is "seen" and is sought by the RIAA.
And the list and it's availability are advertised even if there is a firewall, NAT, or any other "block" preventing incoming connections from occurring at all. Back in the days of long-forgotten accuracy, the reports had an IP/port/timestamp that you could track to netflow (most of the time), even if there were 0 bytes transferred (and is even that a violation?). Jeff
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