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RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content
From: "Chris Crozier" <chris () cirrus co za>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 13:12:36 +0200
-----Original Message----- From: owner-firewall-wizards () nfr net [mailto:owner-firewall-wizards () nfr net]On Behalf Of Perry E. Metzger
In general, an employee will be productive or they won't. If they get their work done, keep 'em. If they don't, fire them. Its easy.
Wish it were that simple in our part of the world (South Africa). We have some of the most enlightened labour legislation in the world, with the consequence that it can takes months, and cost the equivalent of years of salary, to fire someone just because they are not productive. There is surely a middle ground between an intrusive and privacy-invasive approach and the complete laissez-faire approach. In many countries outside the US rules can be very one-sided against the employer so the arguments for applying some general limitations on kinds of traffic can be stronger. I don't know of any company that would try to stop an employee calling his/her spouse, but I was an observer of a months-long struggle involving an employee spending an average of 90 minutes a day on private phone calls. Even with the evidence of telephone logs it took 6 months to fire the person involved (who persisted in his/her ways after repeated warnings). What's interesting to me is that the debate on the value of screening mail turns out to be far more influenced by local social mores than I would have supposed. In an ideal world, rights and responsibilities/accountability are reasonably balanced, but when they are not then I speculate that the case for screening gets stronger. I would much rather change society and attitudes than implement screening, but I'm not sure I would be too successful. Chris Crozier Cirrus Technologies (www.cirrus.co.za) Tel.: +27 11 463 5557 Mobile: +27 83 377 7289 Fax: +27 11 463 5671 Chris Crozier Cirrus Technologies (www.cirrus.co.za) Tel.: +27 11 463 5557 Mobile: +27 83 377 7289 Fax: +27 11 463 5671
Current thread:
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content, (continued)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Godfrey_Cureton (Aug 05)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Dean_Ethier (Aug 05)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Peter Jeremy (Aug 05)
- RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Steven Deutsch (Aug 05)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Dave O'Shea (Aug 05)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Bruce B. Platt (Aug 07)
- RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Noller2G (Aug 07)
- RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Francis, Catherine (Aug 07)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Chris Crozier (Aug 09)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Perry E. Metzger (Aug 09)
- RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Chris Crozier (Aug 10)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Joseph S. D. Yao (Aug 10)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Adam Shostack (Aug 11)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Perry E. Metzger (Aug 09)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Steve Bellovin (Aug 09)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Brian Steele (Aug 10)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Jeremy Epstein (Aug 11)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Dean_Ethier (Aug 11)
- Re: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Bennett Todd (Aug 12)
- RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Stout, Bill (Aug 12)
- RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Gary Crumrine (Aug 12)
- RE: Screening Outgoing Mail for Content Gary Crumrine (Aug 12)
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