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Re: Trust validation of programmers
From: ark () eltex ru
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:28:01 GMT
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- nuqneH, Rick Smith <rick_smith () securecomputing com> said :
At 08:05 AM 6/26/98 -0400, Ted Doty wrote:From what I've seen, this situation is more like the craft guilds of the Renaissance. Apprentices and journeymen would work under the supervision of masters, who were not only responsible for the quality of the product, but for training the apprentices and journeymen as well.Arguably the training style is like this, particularly in mature organizations, but there's an essential ingredient missing -- there's no assurance that a person claiming to be a journeyman or master really is one. In the Good Old Days you'd practice your craft in the same community that you trained in, so everyone that mattered knew your status. Today, someone can walk in off the street with a bogus resume and claim to be an expert. I suppose one could say that the CISSP is supposed to address this problem, though it's nowhere nearly as comprehensive (or costly) as guild style apprenticeships.
Say more, many people (incl me) will NEVER pay a single cent to ISS for certification. Don't trust me, don't trust my code, etc, if that does matter for you. I just don't care. I do not want to. I don't see WHY should i spend my money. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ {::} {::} {::} CU in Hell _| o |_ | | _|| | / _||_| |_ |_ |_ (##) (##) (##) /Arkan#iD |_ o _||_| _||_| / _| | o |_||_||_| [||] [||] [||] Do i believe in Bible? Hell,man,i've seen one! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNZo5YKH/mIJW9LeBAQEBsQP8CQy/ZWBx9/eOaJNVwzuBlNee3xuHu5SN M7FltTbupSSZVw4JSj6+1RthHQvjm/cpnza4Qtg08S/jGUaZjiZWT5ZSGO2g0wER xiBwcumP2AR3TrYs4ledIo//4QToCVucDGoevS8jl2MUJwMPalq3D7lsof+g+RRe ZZ1KKhH5JZM= =VAJV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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