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Re: Recording slow scans
From: Bennett Todd <bet () mordor net>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:15:00 -0400
1998-10-10-14:48:33 Darren Reed:
Couple of problems here... (1) potential loss of revenue for X companies which make IDS products;
I'm sorry, but I just don't see that as a problem. Right now it looks like the most actively-developed and researched IDS is NFR, but NFR has gotten backed into a kind of icky pickle; while people are encouraged to play with it, as soon as they try using it they discover it can't keep up with a busy net, and are told to buy the commercial one, as it is apparently faster --- enough so to be useable.
(2) significant kernel bloat and subsequent requirements for machines; (3) all IDS solutions are part-kernel, part-user programs;
Sure --- but I think the point was to shove enough of the screening decision logic down to the bottom of the stack to help performance, is all. As for kernel bloat, if the bloat's too bad, why then don't use it, I don't expect to see this kind of goo included by default until and unless people start using it really widely.
(4) you have to convince the right people that it is worrthwhile (and they might (rightly) say "use NFR" or some such).
"use NFR" is only an option if (a) you don't need to track a busy net, or (b) you don't care about open source. Some of us do care about open source. -Bennett
Current thread:
- Re: Recording slow scans, (continued)
- Re: Recording slow scans Stephen P. Berry (Oct 09)
- Re: Recording slow scans Darren Reed (Oct 13)
- Re: Recording slow scans Crispin Cowan (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Darren Reed (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Adam Shostack (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Darren Reed (Oct 14)
- Cisco's L2F Andy Burns (Oct 14)
- Re: Cisco's L2F Jesús Cea Avión (Oct 16)
- Re: Recording slow scans Bennett Todd (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Chuck Benson (Oct 14)
- Re: ifconfig down (was Re: Recording slow scans Doug Hughes (Oct 13)
- Re: ifconfig down (was Re: Recording slow scans Henry Hertz Hobbit (Oct 13)
- Re: ifconfig down (was Re: Recording slow scans Radovan Semancik (Oct 14)
- Re: Recording slow scans Marcus J. Ranum (Oct 07)
- Re: Recording slow scans Darren Reed (Oct 14)