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RE: [ISN] New Defence Computer Keeps Hackers Out and Secret (fwd)


From: Paul McNabb <mcnabb () argus-systems com>
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:28:10 -0500 (CDT)

I've poked around on these sites and it appears that the Australians
are finally commercializing the old CMW technology, something that
was done years ago here in the U.S.  I wonder if they've added anything
of value or if they are just repackaging it?  I know of at least six
products that do exactly what is described by the Australian web pages,
and do it on a single machine with properly modified/secured X servers
and network stacks.

paul

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 From owner-firewall-wizards () nfr net  Mon Oct 19 09:11:16 1998
 From: Peter Mayne <Peter.Mayne () digital com>
 To: firewall-wizards () nfr net
 Subject: RE: [ISN] New Defence Computer Keeps Hackers Out and Secret (fwd)
 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:25:30 +1000
 
 Not a firewall, but a way of securely "connecting" a classified network to
 an unclassified network.
 
 The quote is right: in this kind of environment, a firewall is useless.
 
 The page at http://www.adc.gov.au/news/feature_infosec.html says:
 
 > The other members of the consortium are Compucat, a Canberra-based
 > specialist in computer security, and Digital Equipment Corporation
 > (Australia), a subsidiary of the US information technology giant.
 
 > The Interactive Link allows a computer operator to open both classified
 > and unclassified "windows" simultaneously on the same workstation
 > screen, and to import information from the unclassified to the
 > classified window, but not the other way around.
 
 (I included the first paragraph so I can take the opportunity to guarantee
 that I have nothing to do with it.)
 
 Here's an example:
 
 You're working on a classified network, but you want to be able to browse
 the Web. You can have a second system on your desk connected to an
 unclassified network, and on to the Internet, but that's clumsy and uses up
 space. So, why not run your browser on the unclassified system, but display
 it on the classified system (an everyday use for X Windows or SMS remote
 control)? If anybody hacks your browser, the only system at risk is the
 unclassified one, right? Likewise mail: if your email client is running on
 the unclassified system, and only displaying on your classified system, you
 can't send classified information, right?
 
 The holes are so obvious I won't start to point them out (as well a bunch of
 not so obvious holes), but 'what Vision Abell calls a "data diode" which
 allows information to travel one way but not the other' might help out here,
 hence the "software and hardware in a modest-sized grey box". Sounds
 horrendously complicated, so good for them if it works.
 
 See the links at http://www.dsto.defence.gov.au/stindex.htm#S for similar
 media releases about Starlight (found using AltaVista).
 
 I have absolutely no involvement in any of this whatsoever, just in case
 somebody thinks I'm giving away trade secrets; I've never heard of Vision
 Abell before the other day, I don't know how they do it, I've never seen it
 in action, etc, etc. I just happen to live here, and I saw the article in
 the paper.
 
 PJDM
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 Peter Mayne, Compaq Computer Corporation (Australia), Canberra, ACT
 These are my opinions, and have nothing to do with Compaq.
 I used to be a Digit, now I'm a Q.
 



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