Re: handy list of undesireble foreign networks

[ark () eltex ru]

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nuqneH,

- From my expirience there is no such thing as uncooperative nations - there
are uncooperative organizations all around the world and that does matter.

There is major problem with some asian companies including ISPs who do not have abuse service that have english skills 
good enough to communicate and this seem
to be most annoying. But there are really few who are not _willing_ to cooperate.
Could you please name at least _one_ _country_ that causes trouble on the net?


Tony Miedaner <miedaner () twcny rr com> said :

> Hostile and uncooperative nations probably should be filtered as they could become a
> haven for hackers (and probably are) for whatever reasons - I think this does reduce
> the threat in a way.  At a minimum it would be useful to identify these networks on
> an IDS system, IMHO.
>
> Going out on a limb here you could argue that countries where there could be no
> cooperation in pursuing computer criminals should be blocked.  It would be far safer
> for a US based person to launch a US directed attack from a machine in a foreign
> country that is hostile to the US.
>
> There is another side to this I suppose in that the size and fragmentation of the
> networks may make such a list impossible to implement except possibly in an IDS
> system.
>
> ark () eltex ru wrote:
>
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> > nuqneH,
> >
> > I think the whole idea is not good at all. Poorly protected
> > cable tv or *dsl users, ill-behaving ISP or something else like that are no less
> > treat to Internet security. There is no reason to maintain a list of "hostile
> > national networks" if an intruder can bypass any rules by hacking into US-based
> > system and then go wherever he wants.
> >
> > "Bowden, Kevin" <bowden_kw () naptheon com> said :
> >
> > > In our last NIPC Chapter meeting we asked for just such a list.  We thought
> > > the FBI would be a good source for this information.  It may be that the
> > > information will only be available to those who have cleared their screening
> > > process.  That is of course assuming that the information is available and
> > > provided at all.  Besides this, I have had no luck finding other sources for
> > > this data other than keeping an eye on the news and doing my own
> > > cyber-sleuthing.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > From:         Tony Miedaner [mailto:miedaner () twcny rr com]
> > > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 2:03 PM
> > > To:   firewall-wizards () nfr net
> > > Subject:      [fw-wiz] handy list of undesireble foreign networks
> > >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Any body know where I can get a quick list of networks used in various
> > > non-friendly foriegn nations?  I know it would not be perfect (because
> > > of provider allocation) but something that could be used as a baseline
> > > for screening evil and such.  Any RTBL or ORBS type lists out there for
> > > general tcp/ip traffic?

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