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RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd
From: Bill Sharrock <tux () wi rr com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:59:25 -0500
On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 13:06 -0400, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
Behm, Jeffrey L. wrote:You don't gotta outrun the bear, just the guy next to you.That's the strategy that's gotten us where we are today. It works great assuming the bear count remains a constant and the bears don't suddenly all come equipped with overdrive. It also assumes that bears exercise reason in selecting their targets. Next-gen malware breaks all of those assumptions. mjr. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
But going back to the issue of trust, do I really care more about the bear or about the fact that the guy I left in the dust just happens to be carrying the backpack I put my insulin in? Sure I'm not mauled but I can't say that I'm not in danger from the attack. The worst part is it doesn't matter if the bear is some super, genetically enhanced, cyber-bear. Now that I have to consider the lowest common denominator in my troop (again), I'm back to worrying about Smokey and Gentle Ben. Well, that's my two cents adjusted for inflation. Thanks for listening. Bill _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Behm, Jeffrey L. (Jun 20)
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- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Marcus J. Ranum (Jun 20)
- Re: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Adam Shostack (Jun 20)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Bill Sharrock (Jun 29)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Marcus J. Ranum (Jun 20)
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- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Paul D. Robertson (Jun 20)
- Re: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Kevin (Jun 20)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Brian Loe (Jun 21)
- Re: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Kevin (Jun 21)
- Re: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Kevin (Jun 20)
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- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Richards, Jim (Jun 20)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Eugene Kuznetsov (Jun 20)
- RE: Broken Analogies (was: Transitive Trust) Ben Nagy (Jun 21)
- RE: Broken Analogies (was: Transitive Trust) Brian Loe (Jun 21)
- RE: Transitive Trust: 40 million credit cards hack'd Eugene Kuznetsov (Jun 20)