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Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me
From: Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:33:41 -0500
I think this frames the "argument in the wrong terms. I don't think it's a question of pro ids or pro firewall. The question is, where is the technology taking us?
Look at IDS and what do you see? A move toward IPS. IPS essentially consists of blocking known "bad" hosts or networks. What do firewalls do? Block known bad hosts, networks and unwanted traffic.
Seems to me like the two are headed for a marriage. :-)As far as bandwidth issues goes, the move to ASICS appears to be obviating that objection. ASICS-based equipment can handle a lot of bandwidth without falling over, and when you think about it, why *shouldn't* a security device be a purpose-built appliance?
--On Tuesday, June 17, 2003 09:27:24 PM +0200 Remko Lodder <remko () elvandar org> wrote:
Quoting adam <eggroid () hotpop com>: Is there anyone of the 'other' side who agrees with gartner? Perhaps it can be an interesting discussion between pro ids' persons and pro firewall persons?
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- Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Anton Chuvakin (Jun 13)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me adam (Jun 14)
- Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Remko Lodder (Jun 18)
- Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Paul Schmehl (Jun 18)
- Re: [security-elvandar] Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Remko Lodder (Jun 18)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Jerry M. Howell II (Jun 14)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Michael Sierchio (Jun 17)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Paul Schmehl (Jun 17)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me George W. Capehart (Jun 17)
- Gartner comments (was Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Randy Taylor (Jun 17)
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- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me broyds (Jun 14)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Mike Lyman (Jun 17)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Jim Butterworth (Jun 17)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Angel Rivera (Jun 17)
- RE: IDS failures and avoiding them (WAS: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me) Mike Lyman (Jun 17)
- RE: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me Roger A. Grimes (Jun 17)
- Re: Rather funny; looks like page defacement to me adam (Jun 14)