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Re: Calcuating Loss
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 12:38:21 -0400
On Wed, 12 May 2004 08:56:25 PDT, "Schmidt, Michael R." said:
What we need is something that you have to log into (securely) or your DHCP is revoked immediately. And of course static IPs are well, static and since they are routed, routes can be logged and therefore trackable.
All fine and good.. However... there's this whole "enforcement" thing. For starters, the net is multinational - how do you *force* some user in Zimbabwe to use your scheme? I'll leave all the privacy issues to others - there's plenty of problems *there* as well.
If you replace a part on some new cars with a non-manufacturers part, you void the warranty. But when you run unsigned downloaded for free or sent through email code on your dell, who do you call and expect to fix it when it stops working? The end user is the moron, we require no test to get on the internet and yet we let more people anonymously sign on the net everyday.
You have to make a decision here - I may be willing to use an aftermarket part and void my warranty, having made a decision that doing so was a good idea - the aftermarket part may be vastly less expensive (I've replaced several pieces of my car with junkyard salvage for $20 when the 3rd party part was $100 and the original company's part was $160), or higher performance, and you decide that it's worth voiding the warranty. It's a totally different thing to legislate that replacing a part with a non-vendor part is illegal - and that's what you'd have to do to make this scheme fly. When source code is outlawed, only outlaws will have source.... :)
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- Re: Calcuating Loss Alexander Schreiber (May 11)
- RE: Calcuating Loss Schmidt, Michael R. (May 12)
- Re: Calcuating Loss Valdis . Kletnieks (May 12)
- RE: Calcuating Loss Frank Knobbe (May 12)
- RE: Calcuating Loss Gary E. Miller (May 12)
- RE: Calcuating Loss Frank Knobbe (May 12)
- RE: Calcuating Loss Gary E. Miller (May 12)
- RE: Avoiding traceability (was: Calculating Loss) Frank Knobbe (May 12)
- RE: Avoiding traceability (was: Calculating Loss) Ron DuFresne (May 13)
- Re: Calcuating Loss Valdis . Kletnieks (May 13)