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Re: Why is IRC still around?
From: Jason <security () brvenik com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:11:51 -0500
Unfortunately IRC is not the problem. Removing IRC will cause the systems that use it to leverage another control channel. The people that abuse it will use another forum...
The problem is that systems exist that can be mass exploited and used to coordinate attacks and that there are people happy to exploit those systems.
You can use any of the following to coordinate the same attacks: - a web page - ping - DNS - newsgroups - ftp - AIM - Jabber - P2P - Email - blog ... Danny wrote:
Well, it sure does help the anti-virus (anti-malware) and security consulting business, but besides that... is it not safe to say that: 1) A hell of a lot of viruses/worms/trojans use IRC to wreck further havoc? 2) A considerable amount of "script kiddies" originate and grow through IRC? 3) A wee bit of software piracy occurs? 4) That many organized DoS attacks through PC zombies are initiated through IRC? 5) The anonymity of the whole thing helps to foster all the illegal and malicious activity that occurs? The list goes on and on... Sorry to offend those that use IRC legitimately (LOL - find something else to chat with your buddies), but why the hell are we not pushing to sunset IRC? What would IT be like today without IRC (or the like)? Am I narrow minded to say that it would be a much safer place? ...D _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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Current thread:
- Why is IRC still around? Danny (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Jeff Donahue (Nov 19)
- RE: Why is IRC still around? Poof (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Max Valdez (Nov 20)
- RE: Why is IRC still around? Poof (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? shrek (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? shrek (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? huhu (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Jason (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? james edwards (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? dk (Nov 20)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Mister Coffee (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Danny (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Micheal Espinola Jr (Nov 20)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Andrew Smith (Nov 20)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? stephane nasdrovisky (Nov 20)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Michael Rutledge (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? n3td3v (Nov 19)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? (n3td3v is a troll) Steve R (Nov 20)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? n3td3v (Nov 19)
(Thread continues...)
- Re: Why is IRC still around? Jeff Donahue (Nov 19)