Full Disclosure mailing list archives
Re: complaints about the governemnt spying!
From: Stan Bubrouski <stan.bubrouski () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:22:12 -0500
On 12/29/05, Michael Holstein <michael.holstein () csuohio edu> wrote:
The security directives are secret because you don't show your hand to the enemy (except if you work for the New York Times.)Uh huh .. so the newspaper informing the public about an illegal government program (after holding the article for a year at the government's request) is "helping the enemy"
Especially when "the enemy" is anyone who publicly or *privately* disagrees with the president. Worse now US citizens are enemies with no civil rights and are imprisoned indefinately like rats...exactly what are we defending by spying on our own citizens with no cause is beyond me.
It seems so many have forgotten who the true enemy is. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Jefferson, 1759).
That's actually a Benjamin Franklin quote, which is worded about 1000 different ways depending on the source. -sb
/mike. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Current thread:
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints aboutthegovernemntspying!, (continued)
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints aboutthegovernemntspying! J.A. Terranson (Dec 31)
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints aboutthegovernemntspying! InfoSecBOFH (Dec 31)
- Message not available
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints aboutthegovernemntspying! InfoSecBOFH (Dec 31)
- Message not available
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints aboutthegovernemntspying! InfoSecBOFH (Dec 31)
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about the governemnt spying! Leif Ericksen (Dec 29)
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about the governemnt spying! Román Ramírez (Dec 30)
- Re: [Full-disclosure][WAY OFF TOPIC] complaints about the governemnt spying! Red Leg (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Technica Forensis (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Román Ramírez (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Stan Bubrouski (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Paul Schmehl (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! bruen (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Leif Ericksen (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Benjamin Krueger (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Leif Ericksen (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Michael Holstein (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Benjamin Krueger (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Jei (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! Michael Holstein (Dec 29)
- Re: complaints about the governemnt spying! gboyce (Dec 29)