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Re: IT security professionals in demand in 2006
From: 6ackpace <6ackpace () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:50:23 +0530
Certification have their place in the industry.it is a base line to judge a person and his technical knowledge. yes i agree to you all about the fact that people with little knowledge or no knowledge doing this certifications.Also they this certificates require some prerequisites to write. *bottom line:it's up to the industry to select right person for right jobs. * ** *thank you* ** *6ackpace * On 12/6/05, Gautam R. Singh <gautam.singh () gmail com> wrote:
"do we need to code our own OS to be an OS/System administrator" :-P I think well u usually dont, but u should know the "inner workings" of it :) But it always good if u code ur own os :) On 12/5/05, sk <sk () groundzero-security com> wrote:CISSP is bullshit. as eeye said 99% of the security consultants do their pen-tests with automated tools which is pathetic in my opinion. if you cant write exploits, you are no professional, more like a steam blower. how can someone be professional when he doesnt even understand how an exploit works in deep? what if there are custom scripts or exotic daemons installed? without beeing able to audit code and understand how certain bugs are beeing exploited, how can someone think he got enough clue to do a professional security audit? its just a rip off of the customers as simple as that. or would you pay someone to run an automated tool against your host, sit back and wait till a nice pdf statistic is generated so he got something to present to you? of course you wouldnt. in the 90s the people still had to learn on their own and all the mainstream hackers who speak at your conventions didnt learn their knowledge from stupid class rooms. everyone who thinks hes a security professional or even a hacker after he made some certs, is just living in a dream world. then again the media plays well with the steam blowers so they can make a nice living.. sorry i just had to say that since its going on my nerves how all these people suddenly think their stupid certs make em special, but then if it comes to knowledge everyone is cluless... -sk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec () gmail com> To: < full-disclosure () lists grok org uk> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:01 AM Subject: [Full-disclosure] IT security professionals in demand in 2006http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;923889191;fp;16;fpid;0 _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/-- http://gautam.name +91 9885677919 :wq! _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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